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Old 08-Dec-2006, 23:09
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Default Re: Had better

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Originally Posted by BobK View Post
That's an interesting view. Reflecting on my own usage in less formal contexts, the /d/ of I'd assimilates to the /b/ of better, becoming an unreleased bilabial closure (but still voiced). This may sound fairly similar to 'I better' in most respects (it'd take either a speech spectrograph or a sensitive listener to tell the difference - mainly, a longer closure), but there is a difference. The failure to produce that difference isn't a feature of standard English (not of BE anyway - I have no idea what they do in Canada ).

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By far, the most common use worldwide seems to be "S + better + verb". This is not surprising because these types of "recently developed semi-modals ... are common in conversation but virtually non-existent in written exposition. Interestingly, BrE has been more innovative recently in the use of semi-modals than AmE".

[material in quotes from the LGSWE]

A UK pages only google:

Results 1 - 10 of about 664,000 for "You better".

Results 1 - 10 of about 290,000 for "You'd better".

Results 1 - 10 of about 123,000 for "You had better".

Looks like it's in pretty standard usage in the old UK, Bob.

A regular google:

Results 1 - 10 of about 7,040,000 English pages for "You better".

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,250,000 English pages for "You'd better".

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,060,000 English pages for "You had better".
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