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Old 14-Mar-2007, 10:14
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Default Re: The book reads well.

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Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
The verbs in question are both active and passive: syntactically active (i.e., their morphology) but semantically passive (i.e., their roles). Break, wash, and read are done to the glass, the clothes, and the book, respectively, by someone.
This is where we differ. Read, as a mental activity, cannot be seen as symantically passive. Read is not something you do to a book: the book never changes. Glass breaks: the glass changes. Wash clothes: the clothes change. Read a book: the book stays the same while the reader changes.


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What about the implied doer here?

Ex: The book reads well (for me).
The implied doer is the book, and we are back to square one. Books can't read!


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Originally Posted by Casiopea
only read "feels" awkward. Could the reason for that be that read is not all that common in both passive voice?
It feels awkward because it is a mental activity that acts on the person doing the reading, making it different to verbs like wash and break - it has no stative quality.

In mediopassive the verb has to have a stative quality. Not every verb has that, so not every verb can be used in mediopassive. My view is that 'reads' is one of those non-passive verbs that shouldn't be used this way.

Last edited by RonBee; 25-Mar-2007 at 21:17. Reason: fix quote
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