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Old 23-Apr-2007, 07:13
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Default Re: had had

The way I learned it, I have a slightly different (and, in my opinion, better) structure and explanation.

Original problem:

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Smith where Jones had had had had had had had had had had had the examiner's approval.
Given in this forum:

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Smith, where Jones had had "had had" had had "had", "had had" had had the examiner's approval.
My own solution:

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Smith, where Jones had had "had", had had "had had". "Had had" had had the examiner's approval.
First, your explanation is not as good for understanding the grammatical structures (making things out of mixed letters). The explanation I learned is that both students were writing a short essay (and you can use this to give practical examples of both sorts of text): Jones wrote a sentence using "had", and Smith wrote a sentence using "had had". The sentence could have been "John ______ an apple, but then he had lost it". In this context, "had had" would get the examiner's approval because it's correct, whereas "had" isn't, because of all that stuff mentioned earlier which I'm not going to repeat again.

This is also clearer structurally, because not only does breaking it into two sentences provide clarity of text (taking the phrase about the students' answers seperately from the information about the examiner's approval), but also providing a more heightened contrast between "had" and "had had" as choices by referring directly to "had had" in the link between the first and second sentences. However, it's largely a personal preference I think. I hope that made sense
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