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Old 02-Jun-2004, 02:02
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Originally Posted by Casiopea
I don't disagree. Actually, I'm trying very hard to grasp it. I really want to see it but I can't seem to make it out. It's tickling my cognitive bone something awful. Hep-me.

He is her brother who left the country. :( Possp
He, her brother, left the country. :D Pronoun
He is the guy who left the country. :D Noun
Her brother who left the country last year.... :( Possp
Her brother, who by the way left the country last year.... :D Possp
He is the brother that/who left the country.... :D Specific
He is the brother of hers that/who left the country.... :) Specific
And I don't disagree that the construction is a bit clumsy. I just can't get it to be ungrammatical. The presence of a possessive adjective should not preclude the presence of a defining relative clause; at least I know of no such rule.

Perhaps the bothersome part is that the possessive pronoun seems to identify the noun and the defining clause seems to define it again.

For example:

It is her brother who left the country.

With emphasis on "her", it sounds very natural.

This is her brother who left the country.

<separates this one of her brothers from another of her brothers>

This is her brother, who left the country.

<now there may be only one brother>

He is her brother who left the country.

<this does not seem as natural, but I can't really dispute the grammar>

I am as stuck on this one as you are.
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