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Old 12-Aug-2004, 12:04
yulia
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It is quite a coincidence to see this here after what I recently posted on the subject. It makes me wonder where you got the idea from.

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Could you, pls, explain me one thing. In the list of irregular verbs, there are two forms for Past Simple & Partciple 1 for some of the verbs. What for these two forms are given & how to know which one to use? Because sometimes these two forms are absolutely differrent. :wink:
They are listed like this, right?

Past tense, ate; Perfect, eaten

1. Use the Past tense form when you are talking about one event/action in the past, like this,

I ate dinner yesterday. (Past)

2. Use the Prefect form in four ways:

A. with 'have/has' when you want to express an event/action taking place in the past and continuing up unit right now, like this,

I have eaten dinner. (Present Perfect)

B. with 'had' when you want to connect two events/actions in the past, like this,

I had eaten dinner before you called. (Past Perfect)

Note that, the event/action that happened first takes 'had -en/-ed', like this,

Event #1: I had eaten dinner
Event #2: you called

C. with passive voice, like this,

I ate a banana (active voice)
A banana was eaten. (passive voice)

D. as an adjective to modify nouns,

A half-eaten banana was in my bag. ('banana' is a noun and 'eaten' functions as an adjective telling us what kind of banana.)

All the best, :D
I, actually, didn't mean that. I meant that sometimes there are tow forms of the irregular verbs, like the following:

Past Simple Past Participle
went gone/been - ?
kneeled/knelt kneeled/knelt
forecast/forecasted forecast/forecasted
learnt/learned learnt/learned

And so on. How do I know when I should use for Past Simple one of these two forms, or when I should use one of these two forms for Present Perfect?
For instance, I can say: I've been to Madrid or I've gone to Madrid. But if I use either of the forms, the meaning will be different for each of them.
OOr for instance. I can say the following: I've learnt so much., or I've learned so much. What will be the difference between these two forms?

I hope that now you got my point.

Thanks in advance.
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