Thank you for your promt reply
As I understand Marylin agreed with the first and Danny agreed with the 2nd
here is the source of the 2nd :
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...6671&dict=CALD
and here is that of the 1st:
http://home.t-online.de/home/toni.go...iom_wm/id5.htm

It's so strange, how can an Idiom has two meanings that some people use it with one meaning and the rest use with the other, or because this idiom is not popular or appeared from long time ago so there is a cofusing in using nowaday? Can you please help me to clarify it? thanks