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Old 19-Jul-2005, 10:47
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Default Re: Learn Grammar; I didn't!

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Can you give an example of one or two things you've heard native speakers say that you would find unacceptable coming from one who teaches English? I hope you're not talking about informal-formal usage issues such as using "like" as a conjunction instead of "as".
Deviations for the Standard are acceptable. I'm a descriptivists: a sentence is "unacceptable" only iff it lacks meaning; that includes informal and formal language. When it comes to the TOEFL, though, Standard Rules all the way.

Deviations from the Standard that I have noticed:

Phonology: e.g., supposu*bly
Morphology: e.g., poor spelling (pick an example), PPs (I *drunk beer).
Syntax: e.g., adverb order (I *sometimes have been known to watch TV.)

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•In spoken English there is a growing tendency to use would have in place of the subjunctive in contrary-to-fact clauses, as in if I would have been the President, but this usage is still widely considered incorrect.


Ah, yes, but it's "a growing". I'd mention that to my students 'cause they're bound to come across it, as did you.
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