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Old 19-Jul-2005, 11:44
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Default Re: Learn Grammar; I didn't!

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Originally Posted by Casiopea
Ah, yes, my comma should have been a semi-colon, sorry:

Morphology: spelling (pick an example); PPs (I *drunk beer)

Please note "PPs" for past participles (i.e., "drunk" a main verb?). Spelling was not at issue. Morphology was.

It's North American; e.g., Joey on Friends uses "supposubly".

Right, I agree. It's not "un"acceptable, but is it (traditionally) grammatical?

That'd be a good topic to follow-up on. What is the Standard position for "sometimes"?

Yes, with "drunk" that's what I thought.

If someone says it on a tv show, then maybe the person you heard say it was just trying to be funny?

As far as the placement of "sometimes" goes, I wouldn't look so closely at that in this case. I think it's as simple as this:

Adverb placement is often unpredictable in conversation. It's a matter of how thoughts come to one's mind. "Sometimes" has been known to move around sometimes. Would you say so?

In the case of "sometimes", I think it's mostly important to take note of what is not typical. Of course, there are parts of a sentence where it simply doesn't belong and where no one would ever think of using it.

Here's something else that comes to mind. Sometimes "probably" is placed at the beginning of a sentence by native English speakers. This is for emphasis. However, when I hear non-native English speakers do this, I think it might have something to do with where "probably" is placed in their first language. One can't be 100% sure of this, however.

For example, I think it's more typical to place "probably" before the subject - at the very start of the sentence - in Spanish. This happens in English, but it's not the most typical placement of "probably".

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