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Old 01-Aug-2005, 15:23
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Default Re: (just) as much ... as ... Prescriptive or Descriptive?

'Stupid' seems a little harsh. I suppose much depends on the intended meaning.

1. It's as much X as Y.

If the speaker intends an adjustment to some previous statement, it's fine. In some of these googles, for instance –

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22...&start=30&sa=N

– you find the parallel noun structure, e.g.

2. It is as much poetry as prose.

Here, the speaker is correcting an implied assessment: "you might describe it as prose, but in fact, it would be just as valid to describe it as poetry/it contains just as much poetry".

Similarly,

3. It's as much blues as country, with a raw, almost-rock energy...

This 'corrective' intent is also possible with the adjectival version:

4. It's not easy to describe a greenway because it is as much conceptual as concrete...

Again, an adjustment: "you might try to describe a greenway in concrete terms, but in fact, it would be just as valid to describe it in conceptual terms/it has just as much of a conceptual element to it".

But if the speaker intends simply to express equivalency, with the similar construction 'it's as X as it's Y', e.g.

5. It's as broad as it's long.

– there's no need for 'much'. For example:

6. [Scenario: a cricket ball is discovered among the headmaster's broken cucumber frames.]
"Q Minor! Come here, boy!"
"What, sir, me, sir?"
"Yes, sir, you, sir! Now then. What is the meaning of this outrage?"
"Outrage, sir?"
"Don't come the innocent with me, sir. I clearly saw you throw that cricket ball over the headmaster's wall."
"Not me, sir. I was playing football with P Major. Isn't that right, P?"
"Don't lie to me, boy! I saw you with my own eyes!"
"With all due respect, sir, your eyesight isn't as good as it was...And from such a distance – "
"Sir, you are as impertinent as you are irresponsible! Bend over this instant!"
etc etc

Here, the speaker isn't adjusting or correcting an assessment: rather, he's saying 'we already knew you were irresponsible, because of your behaviour with the cricket ball; and now we find that you are equally impertinent!"

This 'equivalency' is already expressed by 'as X as it's Y'; so the 'much' is redundant.

But it seems fairly venial to me.

MrP

Last edited by MrPedantic; 01-Aug-2005 at 15:25.
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