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Old 06-Jun-2006, 16:48
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Default A dirty place to sit

Once again, could I ask your opinion on another difficult sentence ?

... She would sit under the acacia tree. It was a dirty place to sit.
I wondered if the transitive use of "sit" (or the omission of the preposition) might not be nonstandard here (?). But my main difficulty was concerned with the adjective "dirty". I thought (perhaps wrongly) that the kind of adjective complementation found here was comparable to well-known cases like :

John is easy to please / difficult to beat etc.,

where the syntactic subject is not to be construed as the "true" subject of the sentence (*John is easy ; *John is difficult), but in which a *nominal clause* must be construed as the notional subject of the copular verb BE ("To please John is easy" etc.).

I would reject an analysis which considered the above sentence as derived from This place is dirty

Cf. (=> ??this place is dirty for one to sit => It was a dirty place to sit)


Instead, I would be inclined to favour an analysis which saw it as derived from :

Sitting (in) this place is dirty (dirty has a somewhat unusual meaning here - but isn't it the same in the original sentence, It was a dirty place to sit ?.)

=> 2° It is dirty to sit (in) this place (extraposition + -ING => TO+V, as is usual in the formation of extraposed sentences)

=> 3° This place is dirty to sit (in). (object-to-subject raising)

=> 4° It is a dirty place to sit (in) => It is a dirty place to sit

A) First, can I ask you if you agree with this analysis ?

B] And if you do, *how would ou describe what happens between 3° and 4°* ?

I think 4° is *not* a cleft sentence, although it bears a formal resemblance with cleft constructions - but again, I am at a loss to describe it.

Many thanks in advance for whatever help you might provide me with.

Stephan
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