subjunctive (again)!!!

[orangutan]

"The party rejected him, suggesting that he be replaced as candidate." -- overt present subjunctive

agreed

The Tory Party turned him down as a possible candidate, suggesting he went away and came back with a better public image. -- overt past indicative

Ambiguous between past simple and past subjunctive. My suggestion was it should be analyzed as past subjunctive.

No wonder the Tory Party turned him down as a possible candidate, suggesting he were replaced. -- overt ill-use of the past subjunctive

This is what I am trying to find out - whether it is ungrammatical or not. It doesn't seem great to me, but I would like further input.

[bhaisahab]

No wonder the Tory Party turned him down as a possible candidate, suggesting he were replaced. -- overt ill-use of the past subjunctive This is what I am trying to find out - whether it is ungrammatical or not. It doesn't seem great to me, but I would like further input.

I would probably use 'be replaced' but I don't think the above is ungrammatical.

[ptetpe]

A snippet from CGEL by Quirk et al. for your reference:

As a suasive verb, "suggest" can be followed by a that-clause either with putative should or with the mandative subjunctive. A third possibility, a that-clause with an indicative verb, is largely restricted to BrE. (p.1182)

The use of the present subjunctive seems to be increasing in BrE in that-clauses. There is a greater use of the subjunctive than the indicative if the agentive (perhaps implied) in the that-clause is shown to be willing to perform the action. Contrast:

The committee was impressed by the candidate, but recommended that she reapply when she had been awarded her PhD.
He was very reluctant to leave, but I recommended that he went.

But in both instances the usual form for BrE is the should-construction, here should go. (p.1013)

[svartnik]

He was very reluctant to leave, but I recommended that he went.

Overtly indicative, because of the past tense form. If we conjugated the verb for subjunctive, the verb form would have to be 'go' (present subjunctive).

[orangutan]

Overtly indicative, because of the past tense form. If we conjugated the verb for subjunctive, the verb form would have to be 'go' (present subjunctive).

It seems you are unwilling to acknowledge the existence of a past subjunctive, other than for the verb "to be". Would that be correct?