[Grammar] SUBJUNCTIVE LOOKING FOR A FORMULA

[pablo2607]

Quote:

What goes around comes around
Lyrics by JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE

What goes around comes around
Yeah
What goes around comes around
You should know that

So what’s the fuss all about.
We learn through repetition,
trial and error,
perhaps in one of these leap jumps
the subjunctive will save the world.

Usually when I don’t like a radio programme
or a TV show, I change the dial or the channel,
and avoid wasting my time.

Some people think that the subjunctive is
serious stuff.

Be serious. Save the subjunctive and forget about it,
Until the next leap, of course, and we can all go all out
On it once again.

However, there is one extraordinary piece of work
no longer then one type written page in the following address which
Has come closest to answering somewhat my question
In 4 simple rules:

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/verbs.htm

I am truly grateful to you all. thanks

The 'Ptolemaic' Evangelist is yet to come
On the subjunctive, be on the lookout for him.
(or her, who knows).

[pablo2607]

What goes around comes around
Lyrics by JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE

What goes around comes around
Yeah
What goes around comes around
You should know that

So what’s the fuss all about.
We learn through repetition,
trial and error,
perhaps in one of these leap jumps
the subjunctive will save the world.

Usually when I don’t like a radio programme
or a TV show, I change the dial or the channel,
and avoid wasting my time.

Some people think that the subjunctive is
serious stuff.

Be serious. Save the subjunctive and forget about it,
Until the next leap, of course, and we can all go all out
On it once again.

However, there is one extraordinary piece of work
no longer then one type written page in the following address which
Has come closest to answering somewhat my question
In 4 simple rules:

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/verbs.htm

I am truly grateful to you all. thanks

The 'Ptolemaic' Evangelist is yet to come
On the subjunctive.

[Raymott]

Originally Posted by BobK

This has been discussed ad nauseam in this forum; search for the many contributions by MikeNY.

b

I think this is a good idea. If a case has been argued from all angles in a previous thread, it seems pointless (to me), to rehash it again, unless there is some extra benefit to be gained. (unless there be some extra benefit to be gained?)

It sounds like AusE is more conservative than BrE on this matter too.

[BobK]

Originally Posted by PROESL

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I understand clearly why you would say "Let's get the sushi appetizer for four". Just the same, based on the rest of your reply here, I take it you would say "I suggest we should get the sushi appetizer for four" rather than "I suggest we get the sushi appetizer for four" if you were given the choice.


Thanks, anyway, but I'd rather not.

Personally, I don't feel it's necessary to retire a particular topic about anything in any place because it has received a lot of attention before. New people arrive and the same things will come up again. If I just wanted to read about the subjunctive in British English, I'd get a book or look it up elsewhere on the Internet. I like asking questions and contributing to a discussion. Forums provide a chance for International discussion - not to mention that the life of a forum is continued posting, so new posts from newbies such as Pablo are important even though a topic may have already been discussed extensively a couple years ago.

On the first of these points, what I was trying - not very successfully - to say was that Br Eng speakers unthinkingly avoid structures that would require the subjunctive; I wasn't being gratuitously simplistic. Given the choice, I'd probably choose 'should'; but I'd naturally avoid having to make the choice. (When I have time, I'll look in the BNC and COCA for instances of 'suggest that + subj.' - though I'm not sure how I'll word the query - as 'suggest that + indicative' is also a possibility.)

On the second, I wasn't pointing to old flame wars. MikeNY was a long-standing and enormously well-informed moderator, who usually had interesting things to say.

b

[PROESL]

Originally Posted by BobK

MikeNY was a long-standing and enormously well-informed moderator, who usually had interesting things to say.

b

Yes, they were usually interesting things -- very interesting things as a matter of fact. For example, there was "LOL" and "that's silly". They were interesting -- and fascinating. Spock out. Captain, wouldn't you say they were interesting. - Not now, Spock. Not now. - Very well, Captain. Two to beam up? - Yes, two to beam up.

[PROESL]

Originally Posted by BobK

MikeNY was a long-standing and enormously well-informed moderator, who usually had interesting things to say.

b

Yes, they were usually interesting things -- very interesting things as a matter of fact. For example, there was "LOL" and "that's silly". They were interesting -- and fascinating. Spock out. Captain, wouldn't you say they were interesting. - Not now, Spock. Not now. - Very well, Captain. Two to beam up? - Yes, two to beam up.

Originally Posted by BobK

On the second, I wasn't pointing to old flame wars.

I didn't think that you were.

It's .