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10-Sep-2009, 09:31
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Current Location: Sevilla, España First Language: English Member Type: Student or Learner | |  record, perfect, import, permit
I am trying to answer a question for my course. I am supposed to identify and explain the general problem that learners might have with a group of words in regards to meaning and pronunciation. The words are record, perfect, import, and permit. The only thing I could think of is that all the words have two usages, all are nouns and verbs but I am not sure if that is the only answer. As for the pronunciation, my guess is that you don´t pronounce the last constanent but then you kind of do..... ANY help/information/ would be greatly appreciated!!!! Thank you
Last edited by beany; 10-Sep-2009 at 14:56.
Reason: wait, is perfect a noun??
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10-Sep-2009, 14:15
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English has a Teutotic tradition that still survives in many non-Anglo-Saxon words: a noun is stressed on the first syllable, a verb on the second.
Thus /'re kord/ is a noun, /re 'ko:rd/ is a verb. |
10-Sep-2009, 14:41
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wow thank you, I never would have figured that out. Can you recommend me any references for reading more about that concept?? |
10-Sep-2009, 15:00
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11-Sep-2009, 13:57
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Current Location: England (South East) First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: record, perfect, import, permit
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Originally Posted by konungursvia  English has a Teutotic tradition that still survives in many non-Anglo-Saxon words: a noun is stressed on the first syllable, a verb on the second.
Thus /'re kord/ is a noun, /re 'ko:rd/ is a verb. | I presume beany will be teaching American English, in which case this rule may work in all cases. It's a useful 'rule of thumb' for Br English as well, but has exceptions; for example, 'research' is /rɪ'sɜʧ/ (for many speakers) in both cases. (The attractiveness of the rule means that many Br English speakers* have adopted it, and believe the invariant version is 'wrong'; they're wrong.  )
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PS * ... and some online dictionaries, I shouldn't wonder. The path of least resistance (not accounting for irregularities) means they can put less effort into producing their content; so they save money. Caveat emptor (Buyer beware) - especially when the price is that low: free advice is worth every penny.
Last edited by BobK; 11-Sep-2009 at 17:20.
Reason: Added PS; fixed typo
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