similar conditionals

[M56]

What would you say is the meaning in the first sentence below and in what way is it different, in meaning and not grammar, to the second example?

"If we arrived tomorrow, that would be wonderful."

"If we arrive tomorrow, that would be wonderful."

Thanks.

[Tdol]

Probability of arrival?

[MrPedantic]

Hello M56

1. "If we arrived tomorrow, that would be wonderful."

This structure usually relates to an imaginary, timeless situation: 'If that were true, I would do this.' However, in this instance, the use of 'tomorrow' makes the sentence more concrete.

It might be used when you were planning the journey, for instance.

2. "If we arrive tomorrow, that would be wonderful."

This structure relates to a journey that is a reality. The present tense in the 'if' clause shows that the sentence relates to a real event; the 'would' in the main clause shows that some doubt is attached to the outcome.

It might be used when you were at the airport. Your flight has been delayed; your journey is still 'real'; but some details are uncertain.

MrP

[M56]

Probability of arrival?

Yes, that and the reality of living in Spain for so long.

Ticket Officer Miguel:You will arrive at 6:00 tomorrow.

M56: And I'm supposed to believe you?

[M56]

Hello M56

1. "If we arrived tomorrow, that would be wonderful."

This structure usually relates to an imaginary, timeless situation: 'If that were true, I would do this.' However, in this instance, the use of 'tomorrow' makes the sentence more concrete.

It might be used when you were planning the journey, for instance.

2. "If we arrive tomorrow, that would be wonderful."

This structure relates to a journey that is a reality. The present tense in the 'if' clause shows that the sentence relates to a real event; the 'would' in the main clause shows that some doubt is attached to the outcome.

It might be used when you were at the airport. Your flight has been delayed; your journey is still 'real'; but some details are uncertain.

MrP

That is a very clear and interesting analysis, Mr P. Would you mind if I copied it to another language forum?

Would staff here mind?

[MrPedantic]

You're welcome, M56!

I'd be honoured if you used my post elsewhere.

MrP

[M56]

You're welcome, M56!

I'd be honoured if you used my post elsewhere.

MrP

Many thanks. I posted it on About.com forums. I'll keep you informed as to the reaction/s.