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    Smile question concerning Modifiers

    Hello my teachers,
    My question is :
    The one in the window was ........ expensive that i couldn't afford it.

    a-so
    b-too
    c-very

    1)justify ur answer plz
    2) can we use use this structure " too..that",(i mean There is nothing grammatically wrong??) if it is right what's the differnce between "too..that" and "so...that" ??
    thnxx alot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by abdoss View Post
    Hello my teachers,
    My question is :
    The one in the window was ........ expensive that i couldn't afford it.

    a-so
    b-too
    c-very

    1)justify ur answer plz
    2) can we use use this structure " too..that",(i mean There is nothing grammatically wrong??) if it is right what's the differnce between "too..that" and "so...that" ??
    thnxx alot...
    ********** NOT A TEACHER **********

    Hello, Abdoss.

    (1) The so ... that construction (kind of sentence) is very

    popular in English:

    It was so expensive that I couldn't afford it.

    It is so hot that you can fry an egg on the sidewalk.

    He is so smart that he finished college by the age of 15.

    **********

    I do not think that too .. that is "good" English.

    You can say:

    It was too expensive for me to buy.

    I couldn't afford it because it was too expensive.

    Thank you

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    Default Re: question concerning Modifiers

    Quote Originally Posted by abdoss View Post
    Hello my teachers,
    My question is :
    The one in the window was ........ expensive that i couldn't afford it.

    a-so
    b-too
    c-very

    1)justify ur answer plz . Justify your answer, please.
    2) can we use use this structure? ; " too..that",_(i mean There is nothing grammatically wrong??) if it is right what's the difference between "too..that" and "so...that" ?? (Start your sentences with capital letters, and always capitilize "I")
    thnxx a_lot... Thanks a lot.
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    Dear TheParser, thank you very mutch for your answering.
    I agree with you. And i was sure that "so..that" is the right answer.But, i need a proof to convince my teacher who teachs me ( I have just started my preparation for TOEFL). His answers ( My teacher ) are :

    1)The one in the window was too expensive that i couldn't afford it.

    2)The cookies that you sent over were too good that i ate themm all.

    His explanation (i mean my teacher) :
    Very = neutral ( i think he is right)

    So = Intensifies with possibility ( I think "so..that" is used to show extremes that lead to certain results. << )

    Too= Intensifies with impossible ( I have never seen "too..that" in English language. I think "Too" is used to show that there is an excessive which is uncontrolled.)

    So am i right ??? or my teacher
    (By the way, my teacher passed his TOEFL test in texas not here in morocco)
    Thank you again TheParser
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    Thank you very mutch euncu (our teacher ). I will try to avoid those stupid mistakes... Thank you again

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    Default Re: question concerning Modifiers

    Quote Originally Posted by abdoss View Post
    Dear TheParser, thank you very mutch for your answering.
    I agree with you. And I was sure that "so..that" is the right answer.But, I need a proof to convince my teacher who teachs me ( I have just started my preparation for TOEFL). His answers ( My teacher ) are :

    1)The one in the window was too expensive that i couldn't afford it.
    Too cannot be used here.

    2)The cookies that you sent over were too good that i ate themm all.
    Nor here.
    His explanation (I mean my teacher) :
    Very = neutral ( I think he is right) Very means a lot of. I don't know what it has to do with neutral. "I had a very good time" - The time I had was better than normal.

    So = Intensifies with possibility ( I think "so..that" is used to show extremes that lead to certain results. << )

    Too= Intensifies with impossible ( I have never seen "too..that" in English language. I think "Too" is used to show that there is an excessive which is uncontrolled.)

    So am I right ??? or my teacher
    (By the way, my teacher passed his TOEFL test in Texas, not here in Morocco) It sounds like your teacher needs a teacher.
    Thank you again TheParser
    -------
    Thank you very mutch euncu (our teacher ). I will try to avoid those stupid mistakes... Thank you again
    Gil

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    hello,Gillnetter
    Yeah you are right,my teacher needs a teacher.
    I also need a teacher .But,I'm not afraid as long as you are with me.

    I realy dont want to disturbe you.But it seems that I have a lot of questions( because i'm beginner and English is the third language in my country..)
    Is "so..that" formal expression or informal ?
    Thank you very mutch for your helping

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    Quote Originally Posted by abdoss View Post
    hello,Gillnetter
    Yeah you are right,my teacher needs a teacher.
    I also need a teacher .But,I'm not afraid as long as you are with me.

    I realy don't want to disturbe you. But it seems that I have a lot of questions( because I'm a beginner and English is the third language in my country..)
    Is "so..that" formal expression or informal ?
    Thank you very mutch for your helping
    Yes, it is common. I called her so that I could get the information. I went to the store so that I could buy milk.

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    Hi,Gillnetter
    My questions are endless
    First, thank you for your answering .
    Second,I see that you didn't understand, I meant the "so ... that " construction.For examlple ;It was so expensive that I couldn't afford it.

    Is it acceptable in TOEFL exam ? Is there anything grammatically wrong with this usage?

    I know that The conjunction so (often followed by that ) introduces clauses both of purpose ( I went to the store so that I could buy milk) and of result ( The river had frozen during the night so people walked across it all the next day )

    Thank you again ..

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    ********** NOT A TEACHER **********

    Hello, Abdoss.

    (1) YES, the so ... that construction is PERFECT English. It is SUPER PERFECT!!!

    (2) How hungry are you?

    I am SO hungry (that I could eat a horse). (That's a joke in the United States.)

    "That I could eat a horse" is an adverb clause that modifies the adverb "so."

    *****

    Here are some other examples that I found in my grammar books:

    How hot was the engine?

    It was SO hot (that the car would not run).


    How fast did she speak?

    She spoke SO fast (that nobody could understand her).

    **********

    Please remember that native speakers often delete (drop) the "that" in

    conversation:

    How cold was it?

    It was SO cold (that) we stopped playing.

    Since you are a learner, I respectfully suggest that you always use "that."

    THANK YOU

    P. S. Congratulations on understanding the use of the conjunction "so that" in clauses of purpose and result. I think that many native speakers (especially younger people) do not
    understand it too well.

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