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Old 06-Jun-2005, 13:43
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Default Usling "the" properly

Sirs,

Please tell me if the following sentence is properly written.

The poems are not the translations.

History behind this question and the sentence in context: I moderate a poetry forum in Canada. In response to an Indian professor, I asked him if the poems he had recently posted were translations. His response:

The poems are not the translations.

I know this is silly, but I work for a university and I've often helped international students write thesis, letters, articles, etc. I've noticed that they seem to have problems with "the" and "a". When I responded that the proper way to say the above was:

The poems are not translations.

The man wrote back:

In " the translations" THE is used as a definite article referring to THE five poems I have submitted. Don't push me to the next grade out of sympathy as we the teachers often do.

I do not want to offend this man. I feel he would be a valuable contributor to our forums, but I'm at a loss as to how to respond to him.

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Old 06-Jun-2005, 23:33
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Sirs,

Please tell me if the following sentence is properly written.

The poems are not the translations.

History behind this question and the sentence in context: I moderate a poetry forum in Canada. In response to an Indian professor, I asked him if the poems he had recently posted were translations. His response:

The poems are not the translations.

I know this is silly, but I work for a university and I've often helped international students write thesis, letters, articles, etc. I've noticed that they seem to have problems with "the" and "a". When I responded that the proper way to say the above was:

The poems are not translations.

The man wrote back:

In " the translations" THE is used as a definite article referring to THE five poems I have submitted. Don't push me to the next grade out of sympathy as we the teachers often do.

I do not want to offend this man. I feel he would be a valuable contributor to our forums, but I'm at a loss as to how to respond to him.
I would ask him this question.

"If the poems are not the translations, what are?"

Similar:

The students are not the problem.

So what is?
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Old 07-Jun-2005, 02:04
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Default Re: Usling "the" properly

Indian English has some different characteristics- article use and use of progressive forms where other speakers would use a simple form, etc. His 'we the teachers' seems to confirm it. If he's got a lot of useful contributions to make, I would get him on board then worry about his articles.
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