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    Smile with chalks

    Are the following sentence acceptable? Which is natural?

    (1) Tony drew a robot with chalks on the blackboard.
    (2) Tony drew a robot on the blackboard with chalks.
    (3) Tony used a chalk to draw a robot on the blackboard.

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    Default Re: with chalks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashiuhto View Post
    Are the following sentence acceptable? Which is natural?

    (1) Tony drew a robot with chalks on the blackboard.
    (2) Tony drew a robot on the blackboard with chalks.
    (3) Tony used a chalk to draw a robot on the blackboard.
    2 and 3 are OK.

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    Default Re: with chalks

    Is chalk an uncountable noun? If so why chalks is correct?

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    Default Re: with chalks

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexAD View Post
    Is chalk an uncountable noun? If so why chalks is correct?
    It can be countable or uncountable.

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    Default Re: with chalks

    (1) Tony drew a robot with chalks on the blackboard.
    (Means he used several pieces of chalk.)

    (2) Tony drew a robot on the blackboard with chalks. (ditto)


    (3) Tony used chalk to draw a robot on the blackboard. (used one piece of a category, called chalk; no article needed)

    Tony used paint . . .

    Tony used pencil . . .
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    Default Re: with chalks

    Quote Originally Posted by susiedqq View Post
    (1) Tony drew a robot with chalks on the blackboard.
    (Means he used several pieces of chalk.)

    (2) Tony drew a robot on the blackboard with chalks. (ditto)


    (3) Tony used chalk to draw a robot on the blackboard. (used one piece of a category, called chalk; no article needed)

    Tony used paint . . .

    Tony used pencil . . .
    I don't much like #1 because it could mean that he drew a picture of a robot with chalks, the robot was holding them perhaps?
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    Default Re: with chalks

    Perhaps. But with so many "context clues" in the sentence, it is perfectly understandable what is meant.

    #2 - use singular 'chalk'

    #3 - delete the article "a"

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    Default Re: with chalks

    Quote Originally Posted by susiedqq View Post
    Perhaps. But with so many "context clues" in the sentence, it is perfectly understandable what is meant.

    #2 - use singular 'chalk'

    #3 - delete the article "a"
    OK, fair enough.

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    Default Re: with chalks

    I'm happier with the singular too, but if the speaker wanted to emphasize that the artist used several different colours I'd be happy with the plural ending. In most cases though, no s is best.

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    Default Re: with chalks

    Quote Originally Posted by susiedqq View Post
    #3 - delete the article "a"
    Or say a piece/stick of chalk
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