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    Default Need Help With Understanding Movie Lines

    Hi, dear teachers:

    I'm watching the movie The Queen and some of the lines confuse me very much.


    (Robin Janvrin on phone to Tony Blair,talking about Queen Elizabeth II's refusal to attend the public funeral of Princess Dianna)
    She just won't have seen anything like this since the abdication.........
    ......
    Unexpectedly becoming King as good as killed her father.
    The usage of "won't have seen" makes no sense to me. I can not figure out what did the speaker want to express by this.

    And the last sentence makes even fewer sense to me. Have no idea what does it mean. Please explain it a bit, ok?

    BTW, just in case some of you havn't seen this movie, I think the "abdication" refers to the Edward VIII's abdication? and the last sentence was about her father George V? (you native speakers know more about this than me, I know:))

    Many thanks in advance:)
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    Default Re: Need Help With Understanding Movie Lines

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo_Lin View Post
    The usage of "won't have seen" makes no sense to me. I can not figure out what did the speaker wanted to express by this.

    She just won't have seen anything like this since the abdication.....
    'Will' can express the speaker's certainty about a present situation:

    1. Luke left an hour ago, so he will be home now. I am certain that he is home.

    'Will have' can express the speaker's certainty about a situation seen as having a present consequence (2), and about a past situation (3,4):

    2. Luke left an hour ago, so he will have arrived by now. I am certain that he has arrived.
    3. He was born in 1870, so he will have died years ago. I am certain that he died.
    4. She just won't have seen anything like this since the abdication. I am certain that she hasn't seen anything like this ...

    And the last sentence makes even fewer less sense to me. Have no idea what does it mean. Please explain it a bit, ok?

    Unexpectedly becoming King as good as killed her father.
    It virtually, effectively killed her father. Unexpectedly becoming king was the real cause of his death.

    George V was the father of Edward VIII and his brother, GeorgeVI. George VI was Elizabeth II's father.[/QUOTE]
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    Default Re: Need Help With Understanding Movie Lines

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo_Lin View Post
    Hi, dear teachers:

    I'm watching the movie, The Queen, and some of the lines confuse me very much.



    The usage of "won't have seen" makes no sense to me. I can not figure out what did the speaker want to express by this.

    And the last sentence makes even fewer (less) sense to me. I have no idea what does it means. Please explain it a bit, ok?

    BTW, just in case some of you havn't haven't seen this movie, I think the "abdication" refers to the Edward VIII's abdication? and the last sentence was about her father George V? (you native speakers know more about this than me, I know:)) Probably so.

    Many thanks in advance:)
    (Robin Janvrin on phone to Tony Blair,talking about Queen Elizabeth II's refusal to attend the public funeral of Princess Dianna)
    She just won't have seen anything like this since the abdication.........
    ......
    She has not seen anything similar to this since the abdication.
    I would not use "won't' this way but I believe that the English do, or did.
    Unexpectedly becoming King as good as killed her father.
    The main reason for the death of her father was when he became king with no advance warning.
    I believe that you are confused with "as good as". This is used quite a bit in English - "You're as good as dead if you fall in the river." "She was as good as married when she finally met him."
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