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    Default that

    people that work for .....
    people who work for.....
    When do you use(who-that)?
    Is there a difference between them in this sentence?

    Thaks..
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    It would be helpful if we had a sentence to look at, rather than just a fragment of one.
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    can we use(that)for humans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by learner. View Post
    can we use(that)for humans?
    Yes, but see post #2.

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    learner, you are ignoring responses. If you are not prepared to cooperate, We are not going to waste time guessing.

    Give one or two complete sentences that prompted your initial enquiry about "people that work for ....." and "people who work for.....", and we'll look at them and try to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learner. View Post
    people that work for .....
    people who work for.....
    When do you use(who-that)?
    Is there a difference between them in this sentence?

    Thaks..
    ONLY A NON-TEACHER'S OPINION


    (1) You have asked an excellent question.

    (2) Some learners, including me, are afraid to use "that" to refer to people. We are

    afraid that other people will think that we are ignorant.

    (3) According to most books, you can use either that/ who in MOST cases:

    The man who/that called was Mr. Smith.

    (4) I just want to respectfully remind you of two things:

    (a) Since you and I are learners, it would probably be better to always use

    "who." So I would say "People who work for Mr. Smith are well-paid."

    (b) Sometimes, you must use "who." There is something called a non-restrictive

    clause (information that is interesting but NOT necessary):

    Mr. Smith, who used to be my teacher, is very sick. (The words "who used to be

    my teacher" are not really necessary, so we put commas around them and always

    use "who.")

    (i) In "People who/that work for Mr. Smith are well-paid employees," the words "who/

    that work for Mr. Smith" are 100% necessary in order to identify the people whom/that we are

    talking about." If you said "People are well-paid employees," that would NOT be true.'

    Many people are not well-paid, but the people who/that work for Mr. Smith are well-

    paid.

    (5) When you get time, please go to the search box at this website and type the

    words "who/that." There are some very helpful threads there.

    P.S. Some sentences in my post are credited to Practice Exercises in Everyday
    English for Advanced Foreign Students by Robert J. Dixson.
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