same as if

[jiang]

Dear teachers,

She knows things sitting inside my head same as if I was turned inside out.
The word “same” is a mistake. Is that right?

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thank you in advance.

Jiang

[allenman]

The word “same” is a mistake. Is that right?

No. I would probably say "the same" but that is speaker's choice.

Not a teacher

[philo2009]

Colloquial rather than a mistake as such. It is short for 'the same as if...', i.e. in the same way...

[jiang]

Hi, Allenman,

Thank you very much for your help.
Do you mean it should be "the same as I thought"?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Have a nice weekend.
Jiang

No. I would probably say "the same" but that is speaker's choice.

Not a teacher

[jiang]

Hi philo2009,

Thank you very much for your help.
Do you mean it should be "the way I thought of it"? I get confused because " in the way " suggests method while "the same " I think suggests contents. Is that right?

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Have a nice weekend.

Jiang

Colloquial rather than a mistake as such. It is short for 'the same as if...', i.e. in the same way...

[philo2009]

Perhaps if I explain exactly what it means, it will become clearer to you:

She knows things sitting inside my head in the same way as she would know things sitting inside my head if I was turned inside out.

[Tdol]

You could have just as if.

[jiang]

Hi philo2009,

Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I see.

Jiang

Perhaps if I explain exactly what it means, it will become clearer to you:

She knows things sitting inside my head in the same way as she would know things sitting inside my head if I was turned inside out.

[jiang]

Dear Tdol,

Thank you for your suggestion.
I get confused. I can say "somebody does something just as somebody else does someting". Here as is a conjuction. Is "somebody does something just as if somebody does something" a pattern?

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thank you in advance.

Jiang

You could have just as if.