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    Smile Refexive pronoun

    I learned at school that if the subject and the object refer to the same person, a reflexive
    pronoun has to be used in English but sentence 1, 3 and 4 sound funny. Why?



    1. When I saw all the presents for me/myself, I was happy.

    2. I do not like pictures of myself.

    3. I cannot understand the fuss about me/myself.

    4. I am not going to ask my boss for the promotion of me/myself. He will have to offer me.

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    Default Re: Refexive pronoun

    When the subject and the direct or indirect object refer to the same person, a reflexive pronoun is appropriate. After a preposition, we use a reflexive pronoun only if there is some clear relationship between the subject and the prepositional object.

    With my new mobile, I can take pictures of myself.
    I saw him looking at a photo of me.
    I like looking at photos of me (/myself).
    I cannot understand the fuss (that others make) about me.
    I am not going to ask my boss for (his) promotion of me.

    (That last sentence would probably be produced as: I am not going to ask my boss to promote me.)
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    Default Re: Refexive pronoun

    Quote Originally Posted by Joern Matthias View Post
    I learned at school that if the subject and the object of a verb refer to the same person, a reflexive
    pronoun has to be used in English but sentence 1, 3 and 4 sound funny. Why?



    1. When I saw all the presents for me/myself, I was happy.
    'me' is not an object of the verb 'saw' here.

    2. I do not like pictures of myself.
    See 5jj's post for an explanation of why "myself" works here. Even so, "myself" is not an object of the verb "like".

    3. I cannot understand the fuss about me/myself.
    'me' is not an object of the verb 'understood'.

    4. I am not going to ask my boss for the promotion of me/myself. He will have to offer me.
    'me' is not an object of "going to ask".

    Greetings from Bavaria

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    I've amended your rule.

    1. When I saw myself, I was happy. (Direct object)
    2. I do not like myself. (Direct object)
    3. I cannot understand myself. (Direct object)
    4. I am not going to ask myself ...." (Direct object)
    5. I gave a present to myself" (Indirect object)
    Last edited by Raymott; 01-Dec-2011 at 08:40.
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