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    Hello

    I have a question with the sentense below;

    I am always here for whenever you need some help from me.

    Does this sentence make sense? And is it correct gramatically?

    I understand it as I am always here for the time when (or any time when) you need some help from me.

    Am I right?

    Thank you.
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    Default Re: when & whenever

    You've got the idea, but I would change the sentence a bit:

    Whenever you need some help, I am here.
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    Default Re: when & whenever

    And often you don't have to mention the need for help: 'Remember, I'm always here.'

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    Default Re: when & whenever

    Thanks for the kind replies.
    And sorry for confusing the matter.
    My point is whether I can use the preposition 'for' before whenever.
    If possible, I hopefully want an example.
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    Default Re: when & whenever

    It's unnecessary here. You could use the preposition before whenever- It's something to be applied for whenever an opportunity arises. (This isn't a particularly natural example, but it's time for bed here and it's the best I can come up with.)
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    Default Re: when & whenever

    Quote Originally Posted by yamamoto View Post
    My point is whether I can use the preposition 'for' before whenever.
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    (1) I, too, wanted to know the answer, so I checked Google books.

    (a) The answer is YES.

    (2) There are not a lot of examples, but here are three of them:

    (a) "Maybe I could eliminate two lines today, putting us ahead of schedule for

    whenever Jacob decided to honor me with his presence again."

    -- New Moon, Stephanie Meyer.

    (b) "I ... carried a small bottle of ... deodorant in my purse for whenever I could

    get my hands on the lavaory pass."

    -- She's Come Undone, Wally Lamb.

    (c) "Special reports may be called for whenever the auditor desires."

    -- Digest of State Banking Statutes, Samuel Alfred Welldon.

    (3) In the first and second examples, the "for" is clearly a preposition. Perhaps

    in the last example, "called for" would be parsed as a phrasal verb.
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