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    Default Keeping the tense consistent

    Ex:

    1. The reason why it was created is to remove any risks of overheating.

    2. The reason why it was created was to remove any risks of overheating.

    Is the second setence the correct one?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: Keeping the tense consistent

    If you don't mind my suggestion:
    It was created to remove any risk of overheating.

    There is no reason at all to say "The reason it was created" when you have this type of "to" construction, and you NEVER needs to say "The reason why [something happened].
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    Default Re: Keeping the tense consistent

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    If you don't mind my suggestion:
    It was created to remove any risk of overheating.

    There is no reason at all to say "The reason it was created" when you have this type of "to" construction, and you NEVER needs to say "The reason why [something happened].
    Is it correct to say "the reason+why"?
    I was wondering about this because my teacher told me several times not to use 'why' after 'the reason' but ' that'.

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    Default Re: Keeping the tense consistent

    Quote Originally Posted by dut_thinker View Post
    Is it correct to say "the reason+why"?
    I was wondering about this because my teacher told me several times not to use 'why' after 'the reason' but ' that'.
    The 'why' after 'reason' is superfluous because both mean the same thing. reason = why.
    But I much prefer Barb's way of putting it - precise and concise. Why use more words than necessary?

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    Default Re: Keeping the tense consistent

    Even worse is: "The reason why ... is because ..."
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    Default Re: Keeping the tense consistent

    The reason I am calling you is ...
    not
    The reason why I am calling you is ...

    The reason he wrote the book was ...
    not
    The reason why he wrote the book was ...


    And as Barb D said, you don't use "because" in these constructions either.

    The reason I am calling you is that I need a favour.
    not
    The reason I am calling you is because I need a favour.


    To echo 5jj's sentiments, the absolute worst possible sentence here would be:

    The reason why I am calling you is because I need a favour!
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 08-Jan-2012 at 14:04. Reason: Oops - quoted the wrong person, sorry 5jj!

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    Default Re: Keeping the tense consistent

    Quote Originally Posted by dut_thinker View Post
    Is it correct to say "the reason+why"?
    I was wondering about this because my teacher told me several times not to use 'why' after 'the reason' but ' that'.
    It seems you had forgotten your teacher's advice when you wrote the original sentence.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: Keeping the tense consistent

    Quote Originally Posted by tedtmc View Post
    The 'why' after 'reason' is superfluous because both mean the same thing. reason = why.
    Not agreed.

    I could give you several reasons why the word "why" is sometimes needed.
    I could give you several reasons why the word "why" is sometimes needed.

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