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29-Nov-2005, 10:02
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| | to be / to become Dear members,
Can you please tell me whether to be and to become both are same or not ?
Like:
I want to be a consultant
I want to become a consultant. | 
29-Nov-2005, 23:11
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| | Re: to be / to become Hi Rajan,
Although these are two different verbs, in spoken English the meaning would be the same. There are slight nuances in meaning but not enough to worry about - it all depends on who was saying it.
Your two examples depend on the speaker =
1. Is the speaker a child, a medical student or a psychiatric patient?
2. Is the speaker a high school pupil or someone near to selecting their options at medical school? (To become something/someone suggests prior knowledge of to how to do so and an acceptance of your own abilities to do it).
Not too sure that this is of any help - maybe other members can be of more help.
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30-Nov-2005, 00:54
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| | Re: to be / to become Rajan,
Your two examples can use either one, as far as I`m concerned  .
However, they cannot always be used interchangeably. Example:
"I`m buying a new car, and I`d like it to be red."
"Become" doesn`t work in this context.  | 
30-Nov-2005, 04:56
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| | Re: to be / to become There are cases where they can both be used, but 'become' describes a process or change, while 'be' describes a state.  | 
30-Nov-2005, 07:38
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| | Re: to be / to become Quote: |
Originally Posted by tdol There are cases where they can both be used, but 'become' describes a process or change, while 'be' describes a state.  | . Can you please give me some examples. | 
30-Nov-2005, 10:19
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| | Re: to be / to become What about looking at it this way, Rajan:
[1] Being a doctor has its ups and downs. (I am a doctor)
[2] Becoming a doctor has its ups and downs. (I am a doctor-in-training)
~.~
[3] I am a doctor. (A doctor is what I am)
[4] I will be a doctor. (A doctor is what I will be)
[5] I will become a doctor. (A doctor is what I will turn into.)
~.~
[6] The apple is red. (Red is its color)
[7] The apple will be red. (Red will be its color)
[8] The apple will become red. (The apple will turn/change in color to red) | 
30-Nov-2005, 11:19
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| | Re: to be / to become Thanks for solving the query but how you will explain this (in bracket)
I want to be a consultant (?)
Can we say in this sentence someone is referring to a state what he wants to become in future.
I want to become a consultant. (?)
Can we say someone has not yet become consultant, he/she is under training. Once the process gets completed, he will become consultant. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Casiopea What about looking at it this way, Rajan:
[1] Being a doctor has its ups and downs. (I am a doctor)
[2] Becoming a doctor has its ups and downs. (I am a doctor-in-training)
~.~
[3] I am a doctor. (A doctor is what I am)
[4] I will be a doctor. (A doctor is what I will be)
[5] I will become a doctor. (A doctor is what I will turn into.)
~.~
[6] The apple is red. (Red is its color)
[7] The apple will be red. (Red will be its color)
[8] The apple will become red. (The apple will turn/change in color to red) |
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30-Nov-2005, 12:35
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| | Re: to be / to become Hi - just have a good laugh about that famous mistake of Germans learning English: "Waiter, when shall I become a beefsteak?" Or alternatively: "Waiter, when shall I be a beefsteak?" Obviously, there is a difference.
Cheers.  | 
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| | Re: to be / to become Quote: |
Originally Posted by rajan I want to be a consultant.
Can we say in this sentence someone is referring to what he wants to become in future. | Yes. "to be", as you know, is an infinitive and infinitives express an event as being unactualized. It's the infintive that tells us you are not yet a consultant; Cf. I can be a consultant; I will be a consultant; I should be a consultant. Quote: |
Originally Posted by rajan I want to become a consultant.
Can we say someone has not yet become consultant, he/she is under training. Once the process gets completed, he will become consultant. | Yes. "to become" is also an infinitive. The difference between "be" and "become" is semantics. The latter houses the meanings 'change', 'turn'. There's a process involved; e.g., I can become a consultant; I will become a consultant; I should become a consultant.
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