#1  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 09:14
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 10
Default Old fashioned 2nd p.s. : "Thou"

While reading some books (e.g. The Scarlet Letter by Hawthorne), I ran across the old fashioned 2nd person singular "Thou".

I know that that pronoun is no longer used for centuries in common English.
Anyhow, is there any region all over the world using it nowadays?
Or is there any context where "Thou" can be used?

Moreover, what are the verb conjugations for the 2nd p.s. "Thou"?

Last edited by Fabio; 04-Jan-2006 at 20:14.
  #2  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 12:41
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 92
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: Old fashioned 2nd s.p. : "Thou"

Second person singular "Thou/thee/thy/thine" has more or less vanished from English as a whole.

You will still find it employed in theological language and liturgy, particularly by those Christian denominations who use the King James Bible. Also, some members of a few religious groups - the Society of Friends (Quakers) for example - still resort to it in day-to-day speech.

Lastly, a dwindling number of English dialects use some form of it (the Northern English "tha").

The second person singular conjugation is "-(e)st" for most verbs (e.g., "thou walkest" and "thou seest"). A few irregular verbs have particular forms:

be/art/wert (or wast) have/hast do/dost

And even modals had second person forms:

wouldst shouldst/shouldest wilt mayest canst couldst etc.

JJM

  #3  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 15:32
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 475
Home Country: Aaland
Native Language: (Afan) Oromo
Current Location: United States
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: Old fashioned 2nd s.p. : "Thou"

Did 'thou' and 'thee' use to be the informal 'you' in the past?
  #4  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 20:32
Newbie
Threadstarter  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 10
Default Re: Old fashioned 2nd s.p. : "Thou"

Quote:
Originally Posted by dihen
Did 'thou' and 'thee' use to be the informal 'you' in the past?
As far as I know, the answer is : Yes, they did.
I found the "Thou" pronoun in a text reporting a familiar or friendly speech between novel's characters. The novel is set in the 17th century.

However, I'm not a native English speaker. Someone else will be able to confirm or not your supposition.
  #5  
Old 05-Jan-2006, 04:21
Editor, UsingEnglish.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 34,375
Home Country: UK
Native Language: British English
Current Location: Philippines
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: Old fashioned 2nd s.p. : "Thou"

Yes, they were the familiar pronoun forms. They were still widely used in some dialects until and in the twentieth century.
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
old, fashioned, 2nd, quotthouquot


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT. The time now is 12:21.



Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.