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    Default when I took

    1-They arrived when I took my shower.
    2-They arrived while I took my shower.
    3-They arrived when I was taking my shower.

    In which case:
    a-They arrived after I finished taking my shower.
    in which
    b-They arrived while I was taking my shower.
    and in which
    c-They arrived when I started taking my shower.

    I think:
    4-He left when I signed the papers.
    means he left after I signed the papers, but I think here we have a cause and effect relationship which does not exist in 1.

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    Default Re: when I took

    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post
    1-They arrived when I took my shower.
    2-They arrived while I took my shower.
    3-They arrived when I was taking my shower.

    4-He left when I signed the papers.
    #1 is not natural English.
    #2 is also not natural. It suggests that the acts of arriving and of taking the shower last the same amount of time.
    #3 is fine with both 'when' and 'while. It means that they arrived after I had started taking my shower but before I had finished.
    #4 is fine, though I feel that the past perfect 'had signed' is more natural. With the past simple, I feel a strong idea of cause and effect. This idea is not nearly so strong with the past perfect.
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    Default Re: when I took

    Thank you very much 5jj for all your replies.

    Could I try a couple of more sentences without trying your patience?
    Do these work:

    5-Every day, the children arrived home from school when I took my shower.
    6-He left when I took my shower.

    I really don't see a significant difference between 1 and 6 and would assume that 6 is unnatural.
    On the other hand, 5 expresses a habitual action. I am not entirely sure it belongs to the same category as 1.

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    Default Re: when I took

    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post
    Thank you very much 5jj for all your replies.

    Could I try a couple of more sentences without trying your patience?
    Do these work:

    5-Every day, the children arrived home from school when I took my shower.
    6-He left when I took my shower.

    I really don't see a significant difference between 1 and 6 and would assume that 6 is unnatural.
    On the other hand, 5 expresses a habitual action. I am not entirely sure it belongs to the same category as 1.

    Gratefully,
    Navi.

    5 is not natural English. It would be OK as "Every day, I took my shower when the children arrived..."
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