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Old 16-Apr-2006, 17:10
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15. _____ important development of the Neolithic age was not in the manufacture of stone tools

but in the production of food.
(A) The most
(B) Most
(C) Most of
(D) Of the most
I think the key is A, but I'm not sure why B is incorrect.
Cann't we take "most" here as an adj. modifering "development", like "Most fish have fins."?

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You are correct, A is the appropriate choice in this case.

Notice in your example, "Most fish have fins" that most precedes a plural noun, fish. In this case, the use of most is correct. However in the original statement(The most important development of the Neolithic age), most would precede an adjective describing a singular noun.

Most by itself is usually used to describe a group or large portion. In order to use most to describe the ultimate or primary reason, it must be preceded by an indefinite article (like "the").
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I knew that. Maybe I didn't make clear my question.:)
Suppose "most" has the meaning of "a large portion of" here, it modifers development, which is an uncountable noun.
I think there is no grammar err, isn't it?
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Most by itself is usually used to describe a group or large portion. In order to use most to describe the ultimate or primary reason, it must be preceded by an indefinite article (like "the").
In my question above, both of the cases are possible. The key point is "most" modifers "developement" or "important".
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Most fish = the majority of fish

In your example, you mean the number one development. You could have 'Most important developments...', but this is a straight superlative to me.
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development, which is an uncountable noun.
I think there is no grammar err, isn't it?
Not always- if we're talking about progress in general, then it is uncountable, but an individual discovery, step or improvement can be 'a devlopment', and then it can be countable.
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In my question above, both of the cases are possible. The key point is "most" modifers "developement" or "important".
Both are not possible, wandonye. "most" is a degree adjective; it means the majority of, whereas "the most", a comparative, notably, a superlative, means above all, the top #1. It modifies the noun phrase 'important development'.

15. The top #1 / The most important development of the Neolithic age was not in the manufacture of stone tools.

Here's another example:

This is my best suit.
=> I have other suits but they aren't as stylish as this one.

This is the best suit I've ever wore.
=> Of all the suits I have ever worn, this one is above the rest, the ultimate, the top.

Hope that helps.
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[QUOTE=Casiopea]Both are not possible, wandonye. "most" is a degree adjective; it means the majority of, whereas "the most", a comparative, notably, a superlative, means above all, the top #1. It modifies the noun phrase 'important development'.
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I think when there is a The, the most important as a whole is the superlative degree of important, and modifers development.

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Most fish = the majority of fish

In your example, you mean the number one development. You could have 'Most important developments...', but this is a straight superlative to me.
Yeah, this is what I meant.
In fact I'm apt to Most of the important developments.., but I did not know what's the problem of Most important development.... I see the reason now since development should be countable here.
BTW, what's the meaning of a straight superlative.
Maybe I have too many questions
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By a straight superlative, I meant a clear one. People will say things like 'thank you for a most enjoyable day', which is a different sort of use. Here, it was pointing directly to the number one. BTW, 'straight superlative' is not a grammatical term, just a phrase I used.
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