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28-Nov-2003, 15:31
| | | viruses vs virii The most commonly used version is 'viruses', but 'virii' is regarded by some as the 'proper' spelling.
Which is correct? [and why?]
Thanks | 
28-Nov-2003, 16:19
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Current Location: North Carolina Native Language: English Member Type: Other | | The correct spelling is viruses. That is because virus ends in s, so we add an es to form the plural. Those who contend that the plural should be virii base that on virus being from Latin. However, English is not Latin. In the case of some Latin borrowings the original plural has been retained, but that is not always the case.
[Edited to note that Mike's answer was better than mine.]
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28-Nov-2003, 20:32
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Originally Posted by cjmuk The most commonly used version is 'viruses', but 'virii' is regarded by some as the 'proper' spelling.
Which is correct? [and why?]
Thanks | There are many words in English that originated in Latin and retain the Latinate pluralization. We have alumnus/alumni, alumna/alumnae, bacterium/bacteria, etc. There are others that have two acceptable plurals, Latinate and English: gymnasium/gymnasia and gymnasiums, forum/fora and forums, helix/helices and helixes, etc.
The word virus certainly originated in Latin, but here is the problem with the "genius" who thinks that the "proper" plural is "virii". First of all, there is no reputable English dictionary that lists the word "virii". Second, and even more importantly, Latin words of a certain declension are pluralized by changing -us to -i, not -ii. Therefore, even in Latin, virus would not become "virii". Finally, while there was a word "viri" in Latin, it had nothing to do with "virus". The Latin word "virus" did not describe microorganisms. The Romans had no knowledge of such things. The Latin word "virus" meant venom, slime, stench and it had no plural. Modern scientists borrowed the word to name a certain "new" type of infectious agent. The plural of virus was then and is now "viruses". The following web site will add more information. http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html | 
28-Nov-2003, 21:30
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02-Dec-2003, 15:23
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Originally Posted by tdol I didn't know that was the reason. Thanks, Mike.  | You're welcome. I wonder how the original poster made out with the information. | 
02-Dec-2003, 15:53
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Current Location: Tokyo Native Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | I hope they learned your paragraph and quoted it in its entirity at the person who uses the 'correct' plural. | 
02-Dec-2003, 18:30
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Originally Posted by tdol I hope they learned your paragraph and quoted it in its entirity at the person who uses the 'correct' plural.  | :wink: | 
02-Dec-2003, 19:05
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Originally Posted by RonBee | Sorry, I don't. My guess would be that it is some sort of "moral of the story" that applies to situations outside the book's context, but that would be just a guess. | 
02-Dec-2003, 20:20
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Current Location: London Native Language: British English Member Type: Other | | It seems that some people use the term "universal statement" about part of an essay. http://www.brunswickschool.org/wickn...ng_process.htm Quote:
"Conclusion
Restate the thesis
to bring the reader back to the main point using
specific references. Now, make some general statements which give
advice to all people or a recommendation which would apply in most situations. This is
called a universal statement because it is not specific to one literary piece, person, or situation." http://www.narragansett.k12.ri.us/NH...itanalysis.htm | Quote:
"The conclusion is one paragraph, as well. At this point, you should step back from the specifics of your subject and relate it to the world as a whole, a universal statement, if you will; this makes your topic relevant to the reader. Remember that this is the last thing your reader will read; therefore, a restatement of your Thesis Statement, a summary of your arguments and some thoughtful reflection is vital to leave the reader with a good impression." http://www.colegiobolivar.edu.co/Eng...an%20Essay.htm | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ent%22+writing
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