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Default Definite or indefinite form

Which would be the correct phrasing?:
The word “to” is both a conjunction and a sign of the infinitive; or
The word “to” is both a conjunction and a sign of an infinitive.
If anyone has a better option than either of these two, I'd really appreciate hearing it! (I am doubtful as to whether I replaced the wrong indefinite article with a definite one ) ...
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Default Re: Definite or indefinite form

Sorry - I discovered almost immediately after posting this question that I seemed to have used some incorrect terminology. It would seem the correct term is "infinitive particle".
I assume therefore that the proper phrasing would be "The word “to” is both a conjunction and infinitive particle".
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Default Re: Definite or indefinite form

People also use 'infinitive marker'. I would also add 'an/the' to balance the sentence.
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Thanks tdol. I'll make a note of that alternate term.

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Some people are not happy with the term 'particle', which they think is ill-defined, which is, I suppose, the reason for the alternative.
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Thanks again, tdol. I have to admit, I never would have guessed this to be a particle, so for future reference I'll make sure I have both terms logged.
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Bill, to functions as both a preposition and an infinitive marker, and, according to my Pocket Oxford, as an adverb in "so as to" (?).
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Truly amazing - I completely overlooked that final possibility.
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