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Old 09-Dec-2003, 01:57
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Today my child came home with an paper that asked for the amount of syllables in several words. Some examples of them are: that's, you'll, she's, and we'd to name a few I personally think that they all have one and in the dictonary it look to be one also but the teacher says that it is two. Can you please help me?



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You could show the dictionary to the teacher. You could explain to him or her what a syllable is. Other than that, I don't know. Each of the "words" you mentioned has one syllable. (They are contractions.)

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The number of syllables in several words. Some examples of them are: that's, you'll, she's, and we'd
Usually vowel sounds ([a], [e], [i], [o], [u] etc) indicate the number of syllables in a word, but some consonants function as syllables, too, especially sonorants, like [m], [n], [l], and dental [s], and especially if they are part of a contracted word:

[that] [s] = 2 syllables

[you] [l] = 2 syllables

[she] [s] = 2 syllables

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The number of syllables in several words. Some examples of them are: that's, you'll, she's, and we'd
Usually vowel sounds ([a], [e], [i], [o], [u] etc) indicate the number of syllables in a word, but some consonants function as syllables, too, especially sonorants, like [m], [n], [l], and dental [s], and especially if they are part of a contracted word:

[that] [s] = 2 syllables

[you] [l] = 2 syllables

[she] [s] = 2 syllables

:D



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That is one interpretation, I suppose, but I disagree. That is is two syllables. That's is one syllable. There would hardly be any point in calling that's a contraction if it were two syllables. And the dictionary agrees with me.

it's
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=it%27s

she's
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=she%27s

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The number of syllables in several words. Some examples of them are: that's, you'll, she's, and we'd
Usually vowel sounds ([a], [e], [i], [o], [u] etc) indicate the number of syllables in a word, but some consonants function as syllables, too, especially sonorants, like [m], [n], [l], and dental [s], and especially if they are part of a contracted word:

[that] [s] = 2 syllables

[you] [l] = 2 syllables

[she] [s] = 2 syllables

:D



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That is one interpretation, I suppose, but I disagree. That is is two syllables. That's is one syllable. There would hardly be any point in calling that's a contraction if it were two syllables. And the dictionary agrees with me.

it's
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=it%27s

she's
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=she%27s

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In the field of linguistics (phonology), [s] is viewed as a syllabic element. I forget the term. Sorry. It's on the tip of my tongue, though :D

Contracted forms omit vowels on the surface level; underlyingly, though, those vowels remain in place and are counted as syllables for that reason. :D

In terms of poetics, I'm not sure, given that I am rhymingly challenged :D , whether contracted forms are counted as disyllabics or not. Help.
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The number of syllables in several words. Some examples of them are: that's, you'll, she's, and we'd
Usually vowel sounds ([a], [e], [i], [o], [u] etc) indicate the number of syllables in a word, but some consonants function as syllables, too, especially sonorants, like [m], [n], [l], and dental [s], and especially if they are part of a contracted word:

[that] [s] = 2 syllables

[you] [l] = 2 syllables

[she] [s] = 2 syllables

:D



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That is one interpretation, I suppose, but I disagree. That is is two syllables. That's is one syllable. There would hardly be any point in calling that's a contraction if it were two syllables. And the dictionary agrees with me.

it's
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=it%27s

she's
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=she%27s

:wink:
In the field of linguistics (phonology), [s] is viewed as a syllabic element. I forget the term. Sorry. It's on the tip of my tongue, though :D

Contracted forms omit vowels on the surface level; underlyingly, though, those vowels remain in place and are counted as syllables for that reason. :D

In terms of poetics, I'm not sure, given that I am rhymingly challenged :D , whether contracted forms are counted as disyllabics or not. Help.
:D
Well, I'm not a linguist. I am only going by the way I pronounce the words. Also, the poster said "my child", so I am guessing that they don't talk about syllable elements in her class.

Sometimes the 's is pronounced as a separate syllable. Examples: Cas's, Bess's, Jess's. Some contractions, of course, are pronounced as two syllables: it'll. that'll, there'll.

(I rather like that word sonorant. )

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