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I have a intriguing doubt about the following sentences...

1. Ram and Shyam's friends have/has gone for a party.
2. Ram's friends and Shyam have/has gone for a party.
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I have a intriguing doubt about the following sentences...
1. Ram and Shyam's friends have/has gone for a party.
2. Ram's friends and Shyam have/has gone for a party.
Both sentences involve more than one person (they) - so have is the only choice for both. Also, gone "for" a party is not very common in British English, but it may be used in other Ebnglish speaking countries. Gone to a party or gone to have a party would be better depending on the context.
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I have a intriguing doubt about the following sentences...
1. Ram and Shyam's friends have/has gone for a party.
2. Ram's friends and Shyam have/has gone for a party.
1.Ram and Shyam`s friends have gone to a party[ plural subject; to go to]

2. Ram`s friends and Shyam have gone to a party [ plural subject]

but..
1. Neither Ram , nor Shyam`s friends have gone to a party [ the closest subject to "nor" is in the plural :friends]

2. Neither Ram`s friends nor Shyam has gone to the party.[ the closest subject to "nor" is in the singular :Shyam ]

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1.Ram and Shyam`s friends have gone to a party[ plural subject; to go to]
2. Ram`s friends and Shyam have gone to a party [ plural subject]
but..
1. Neither Ram , nor Shyam`s friends have gone to a party [ the closest subject to "nor" is in the plural :friends]
2. Neither Ram`s friends nor Shyam has gone to the party.[ the closest subject to "nor" is in the singular :Shyam ]
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Um - as a native British English speaker the use of has instead of have in the last example you give, Sheena, really does not seem to be correct. The rule you quote appears logical in some ways, but is not one I know or have ever heard in practice. Whether grammatically correct or incorrect the practice is that "Ram's friends nor Shyam" are still "they" and people use have.

This is a fascinating point - and quite prepared to be proved wrong!
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2. Neither Ram`s friends nor Shyam has gone to the party.

Yes; I think I would say "have" too.

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