active and passive about "been"

[endeavor6636]

is "have been" an active form? if it is , so is it "have bee been" its passive form?


ex: i have been to china
i have been been to china

what's the difference between both of them?

Originally Posted by endeavor6636

is "have been" an active form? if it is , so is it "have bee been" its passive form?
ex: i have been to china
i have been been to china
what's the difference between both of them?

I have been to China. [ it means I was in China and got back] -active construction

The second sentence is not grammatically correct. As far as I know ,this construction does not exist.Where have you found it?


Regards,

[matilda]

the first one is correct and means that sometime in the past, you were in china and now, at present time, you are at your own country or some where else but not in china.
the second one desn't seen correct.

[endeavor6636]

thanks for clarify that , but is there something like "have been been" ? in english?

[DavyBCN]

Originally Posted by endeavor6636

thanks for clarify that , but is there something like "have been been" ? in english?

No "have been been" is impossible.

[matilda]

the longest form of verb you can use is (have+been+verb+ing)
e.g:
i have been doing my homework when ...

[mykwyner]

How about, "I might have been being rude"? (as a double to be construction) This sounds slightly awkward to me, but I can't find a grammatical error in it, and the meaning is subtly different than, "I might have been rude."

[matilda]

i don't think this form is correct. i think it's tooo long to be a correct verb

[DavyBCN]

Originally Posted by mykwyner

How about, "I might have been being rude"? (as a double to be construction) This sounds slightly awkward to me, but I can't find a grammatical error in it, and the meaning is subtly different than, "I might have been rude."

I agree it is awkward - but it is perfectly correct grammatically. It is using the continuous to talk about something in progress in the past, while "I might have been" talks about something finished in the past. It is also a construction that I hear regularly from native English speakers.

Long verb structures? How about "By tomorrow I will not have been smoking for a year."