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Old 24-Sep-2006, 06:00
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Is there such a phrase as "by didn't of"?

Is this sentence correct?:"he succeeded by didnt of perseverance and sheer hardwork."
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You are very close.
Force or Effort are good substitutes (synonyms) for the word Dint.

Here is a good link.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dint

It's occasionally seen in print, but not often used conversationally.
It did manage over two million google hits, so maybe it's making a
comeback!
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Sorry for the delay, Wsemajb, thanks.
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Phonological note (ignore if you're not interested):

The culprit (for the mistake) is 'nasal plosion'. A lot of speakers (I'd guess most) release the /d/ not between the tongue and the tooth-ridge, but through the nose - so the closure of the /d/ is the same, but the sound it makes is less distinct. This makes didn't and dint sound very similar. Native speakers often don't distinguish them at first; you will often hear a toddler say "I dint'.

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By the way,is there such a phrase "by didn't of"?
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Don't say you heard it from me, but a pretty good way of checking the existence of something (i google, therefore i am) is to Google it - in quotes of course. I won't assume you know that. Many people don't. Quotation marks surrounding a phrase will assure that the results only contain those words used together, and in that order. Sure enough, "by didn't of" only returns one reference - that by someone who meant to write "by dint of". I rest assured that there is no expression "by didn't of". I would not have been so confident of that only a moment ago but, for better or worse these days, in Google I trust!
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I think it was in one forum I found that phrase.
Here is the website searched from google:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:...g&ct=clnk&cd=1
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What you need to keep in mind, Fazzu, is that there are many websites which are written in English but not written by native speakers or by people who can speak/write English correctly. And even on native-speaker sites, you may well find grammatical errors and misspellings.
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The person who wrote "by didn't of" is apparently not a native speaker and if you look carefully at what he/she wrote, you can find further grammar errors and misspellings.
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