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Old 29-Sep-2006, 15:06
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Hi hlbert03
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I used "go through" in the sense of "to come to a desired or satisfactory conclusion". In other words, if an order goes through, it has been successfully placed.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...&va=go+through
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So, If you tried to order something and for some unknown reason no one received your order or no one has a record of your order, then you could say that the order "didn't go through". You might also say that the order "wasn't received".
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Saying "push an order through" indicates to me that there is some difficulty while placing/making the order and you have to do something extra in order to make sure that the order is successfully placed. In other words, you have to apply extra effort to place the order at all. And after the extra effort of pushing it through, you wouldn't need to place the order again.
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I personally would not say that an "order pushes itself through" (which is basically what your sentence implied.)
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Where did you get "push through" from? Is there some special reason you want to use this particular phrasal verb? I have heard "push through" used in companies, but only the way I described above.
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I don't get it. Based on this Web site, the meaning of "go through" is different from the one I was trying to say in the sentence. I'm still confused. Please help.
Aha. This web site ( http://www.usingenglish.com/referenc...l-verbs/g.html ) doesn't include the meaning of 'go through' we're talking about.

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Hi hlbert03
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I used "go through" in the sense of "to come to a desired or satisfactory conclusion". In other words, if an order goes through, it has been successfully placed.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...&va=go+through
.
So, If you tried to order something and for some unknown reason no one received your order or no one has a record of your order, then you could say that the order "didn't go through". You might also say that the order "wasn't received".
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Saying "push an order through" indicates to me that there is some difficulty while placing/making the order and you have to do something extra in order to make sure that the order is successfully placed. In other words, you have to apply extra effort to place the order at all. And after the extra effort of pushing it through, you wouldn't need to place the order again.
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I personally would not say that an "order pushes itself through" (which is basically what your sentence implied.)
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Where did you get "push through" from? Is there some special reason you want to use this particular phrasal verb? I have heard "push through" used in companies, but only the way I described above.
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I am currently working in a Computer company as a technical support and I always hear my colleagues saying "The order did not push through" which confuses me because I have not encountered this until now.

Thanks for the information.
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Hi hlbert03
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As Tdol and BobK mentioned, it isn't unusual for companies to have their own special "company lingo" and I've noticed that techies seem to create their own meanings/usages especially often.
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Since you say that you always hear your colleagues using "push through", then your best bet is to ask your native-speaker colleagues some questions about what they mean when they say "the order didn't push through". Ask them if they mean exactly the same thing as "the order didn't go through."
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Hi hlbert03
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As Tdol and BobK mentioned, it isn't unusual for companies to have their own special "company lingo" and I've noticed that techies seem to create their own meanings/usages especially often.
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Since you say that you always hear your colleagues using "push through", then your best bet is to ask your native-speaker colleagues some questions about what they mean when they say "the order didn't push through". Ask them if they mean exactly the same thing as "the order didn't go through."
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