#1  
Old 06-Nov-2006, 08:19
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 107
Home Country: Hong Kong
Native Language: Chinese
Current Location: Hong Kong
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default insert phrase (do you think)

I got the sentenses from a grmma book.

Which do you think is Ben?
What animal do you think is cute?

1.Are the sentences right?

2.Do they have to be rewrite like this:
Which do you think Ben is?
What animal do you think cute is?

Some, indirect sentences, like the following sentences:

What do you think that is?
Where does Ted think he can hide?
How old do you think I am?
What day does he think your birthday is?

I don't know the rules.
I mean I don't understand why the top 2 sentences are written like that, not like this:

Who do you think I am?

Thank you
  #2  
Old 09-Nov-2006, 11:54
Editor, UsingEnglish.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 34,359
Home Country: UK
Native Language: British English
Current Location: Philippines
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

Which do you think is Ben?
Which do you think Ben is?

It's a mistake in the book, Dido. In indirect questions, the word order of the other examples is correct.

Last edited by Tdol; 10-Nov-2006 at 05:17.
  #3  
Old 09-Nov-2006, 21:10
MikeNewYork's Avatar
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 6,073
Member Type: Academic
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
Which do you think is Ben?
Which do you think is Ben

It's a mistake in the book, Dido. In indirect questions, the word order of the # the other examples is correct.
I think an edit is needed here. Your two examples look the same.
  #4  
Old 09-Nov-2006, 22:22
curmudgeon's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,650
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

Second one is minus a ?, I think Tdol's been on the sauce.
  #5  
Old 09-Nov-2006, 22:41
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 76
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
Which do you think is Ben?
Which do you think is Ben

It's a mistake in the book, Dido. In indirect questions, the word order of the # the other examples is correct.

I think

Which do you think is Ben?

Which do you think Ben is?

Because the second one is an indirect question and we must follow affirmative word order.

Am I right?
  #6  
Old 09-Nov-2006, 22:45
curmudgeon's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,650
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

I don't like either of them.

Who(m) do you think is Ben?

Which one do you think is Ben?

Sit easier for me. I will wait to be corrected
  #7  
Old 09-Nov-2006, 23:02
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 76
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

Quote:
Originally Posted by curmudgeon View Post
I don't like either of them.
Who(m) do you think is Ben?
Which one do you think is Ben?
Sit easier for me. I will wait to be corrected
Again, I think they should be in the affirmative, since the verb think is an introductory verb and it should be followed by an indirect question.

Who do you think Ben is?

Which one do you think Ben is?

Whereas, as direct questions:

Who is Ben?

Which one is Ben?

Can sb confirm?
  #8  
Old 09-Nov-2006, 23:13
curmudgeon's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,650
Member Type: Student or Learner
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

Well, Who do you think Ben is? could mean what is his position

Who(m) do you think is Ben? to me means you are being asked to identify Ben, perhaps at a crowded place.
  #9  
Old 09-Nov-2006, 23:26
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 76
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

As you put it, yes, they sound ok to me too. I just can't justify the second in terms of grammar. Whom becomes the object of think? I think I'm a bit lost
  #10  
Old 10-Nov-2006, 05:27
Editor, UsingEnglish.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 34,359
Home Country: UK
Native Language: British English
Current Location: Philippines
Member Type: English Teacher
Default Re: insert phrase (do you think)

Quote:
Originally Posted by curmudgeon View Post
Second one is minus a ?, I think Tdol's been on the sauce.
I'm afraid I managed that cock-up in sauceless mode.
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
insert, phrase, think


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
what is a noun phrase shift and a heavy noun phrase shift? britt_vanessa Ask a Teacher 3 30-May-2010 16:23
Phrase in a copy writing? JJD Ask a Teacher 1 25-Aug-2006 18:43
The phrase "ended up" sandrapinkoski Ask a Teacher 2 17-Oct-2005 14:44
Nominative absolute phrase Anonymous Ask a Teacher 10 07-Jan-2004 10:45
Prepositional-Participal-Gerund-Infinitive Phrases raelynn General Language Discussions 3 04-Dec-2003 19:33


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:38.



Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.