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Dear teachers,

Please read the following sentences:

No.1
After one yera I was also teaching psychology---and _________ I left high school teaching and moved on to community college.
a. eventually b. in the long run c. ultimately

I have consulted my dictionary and found the following definition:

eventual: happening at some time in the future, ultimate
in the long run: in the near future
ultimate: the final point or result

So I don't know which to choose from. Could you please kindly explain it to me?

No.2
Can I say 'somebody is informed of doing something'?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

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Dear teachers,

Please read the following sentences:

No.1
After one yera I was also teaching psychology---and _________ I left high school teaching and moved on to community college.
a. eventually b. in the long run c. ultimately

I have consulted my dictionary and found the following definition:

eventual: happening at some time in the future, ultimate
in the long run: in the near future
ultimate: the final point or result

So I don't know which to choose from. Could you please kindly explain it to me?
In this case, eventually; not in the log run; ultimately, only if the last move was very definitely your final career move. In the long run is often used in predictions, rather than in CVs!

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Can I say 'somebody is informed of doing something'?

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No. Possible rewrites depend on the meaning:

Somebody is told to do something command
Somebody is told about how to do something instructions
Somebody is informed of something being done information about what's happening


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Dear BobK,

Thank you very much for your explanation. I understand No.2 now.
And I understand your explanation to 'in the long run'. I am not sure whether I understand the rest of No.2 or not. So I'll explain them to you. Could you please kindly see if I am correct or not?

a. If the community college is the college that I'll teach in from the time I moved in then 'ultimate' is correct.
b. If I might move to another college from the community college then I can only use 'eventually'.
c. I don't know what this 'CVs' mean. And I can't find it in my dictionary. Could you please explain it to me?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

Jiang
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In this case, eventually; not in the log run; ultimately, only if the last move was very definitely your final career move. In the long run is often used in predictions, rather than in CVs!



No. Possible rewrites depend on the meaning:

Somebody is told to do something command
Somebody is told about how to do something instructions
Somebody is informed of something being done information about what's happening


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Dear teachers,

Could you please kindly explain No.2?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

Jiang
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Dear teachers,

Please read the following sentences:

No.1
After one yera I was also teaching psychology---and _________ I left high school teaching and moved on to community college.
a. eventually b. in the long run c. ultimately

I have consulted my dictionary and found the following definition:

eventual: happening at some time in the future, ultimate
in the long run: in the near future
ultimate: the final point or result

So I don't know which to choose from. Could you please kindly explain it to me?

No.2
Can I say 'somebody is informed of doing something'?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

Jiang
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Dear BobK,

Thank you very much for your explanation. I understand No.2 now.
And I understand your explanation to 'in the long run'. I am not sure whether I understand the rest of No.2 or not. So I'll explain them to you. Could you please kindly see if I am correct or not?

a. If the community college is the college that I'll teach in from the time I moved in then 'ultimate' is correct.
b. If I might move to another college from the community college then I can only use 'eventually'.
c. I don't know what this 'CVs' mean. And I can't find it in my dictionary. Could you please explain it to me?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

Jiang

Jiang..CVs stands for Curriculum Vitae(s) or resumes ( I´m not sure about the accents in the resume..maybe résumés..
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Dear Avalon,

Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I see.

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Jiang..CVs stands for Curriculum Vitae(s) or resumes ( I´m not sure about the accents in the resume..maybe résumés..
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Dear BobK,

Thank you very much for your explanation. I understand No.2 now.
And I understand your explanation to 'in the long run'. I am not sure whether I understand the rest of No.2 or not. So I'll explain them to you. Could you please kindly see if I am correct or not?

a. If the community college is the college that I'll teach in from the time I moved in then 'ultimate' is correct.
b. If I might move to another college from the community college then I can only use 'eventually'.
c. I don't know what this 'CVs' mean. And I can't find it in my dictionary. Could you please explain it to me?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

Jiang
In the long run, we are all dead. (This is not me being morbid, it's a famous commentator on economics - he was teasing economists for their tendency for making predictions and talking about 'the long run'). You would not use this expression to talk about your career, except to talk about a distant aim: 'I am a student now, and I plan to be a teacher in Beijing when I finish my studies. In the long run, I want to move to the US.'

a) No. Ultimately marks the absolute end of a long progression. 'James Joyce lived in Dublin, then Paris, and ultimately Geneva where he died'. [Note - this may be inaccurate - literary history is not my strong point. ]

b) Eventually means much the same as in the long run, and people use it - when talking about career moves - in the same way as is shown by my example: 'I am a student now, and I plan to be a teacher in Beijing when I finish my studies. Eventually, I want to move to the US.'

c) Avalon has explained - thanks

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Dear BobK,
Thank you very much for your explanation. I understand the differences much better.
Howerver, the key is 'eventually'. Does it mean 'in the long run' is also correct?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

Jiang
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In the long run, we are all dead. (This is not me being morbid, it's a famous commentator on economics - he was teasing economists for their tendency for making predictions and talking about 'the long run'). You would not use this expression to talk about your career, except to talk about a distant aim: 'I am a student now, and I plan to be a teacher in Beijing when I finish my studies. In the long run, I want to move to the US.'

a) No. Ultimately marks the absolute end of a long progression. 'James Joyce lived in Dublin, then Paris, and ultimately Geneva where he died'. [Note - this may be inaccurate - literary history is not my strong point. ]

b) Eventually means much the same as in the long run, and people use it - when talking about career moves - in the same way as is shown by my example: 'I am a student now, and I plan to be a teacher in Beijing when I finish my studies. Eventually, I want to move to the US.'

c) Avalon has explained - thanks

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Dear BobK,
Thank you very much for your explanation. I understand the differences much better.
Howerver, the key is 'eventually'. Does it mean 'in the long run' is also correct?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

Jiang

Which context are we talking about, Jiang? - I've lost track!

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