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| | a drink, a brandy but tea Why the article with tea is absent? | 
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea Both a and no article are acceptable with either 'tea' or coffee', because both those words are either U or C. The noun 'drink' is countable in this context - you can't say *Would you like drink  , except in very rare contexts.
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea Thank you very very much | 
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea And what about a remark by Somerset Maugham "the man with the scar"?
-What will you have, general?
- A brandy.
Would he just use 'brandy' without the article or can I still reffer to it as to an uncountable noun? So, can it be like that with 'tea'? | 
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea Quote:
Originally Posted by PINKGREAT And what about a remark by Somerset Maugham "the man with the scar"?
-What will you have, general?
- A brandy.
Would he just use 'brandy' without the article or can I still reffer to it as to an uncountable noun? So, can it be like that with 'tea'? | With or without the article will work. A brandy = a serving, glass of brandy.
For may people, a tea or a coffee = a serving or a cup. | 
14-Nov-2006, 14:05
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea Quote:
Originally Posted by PINKGREAT And what about a remark by Somerset Maugham "the man with the scar"?
-What will you have, general?
- A brandy.
Would he just use 'brandy' without the article or can I still reffer to it as to an uncountable noun? So, can it be like that with 'tea'? | With apologies to Somerset Maugham, I'll adjust the example a bit:
(The cocktail cabinet is shut:)
What will you have, general?
A brandy. But consider this context:
(It has already been established that the general will have a drink of some kind. The host has a bottle of whisky in one hand and brandy in the other)
What will you have, general?
Brandy.
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea So, do you mean by that that we are talking about a concrete brandy, bottle of...? But the 'the man with the scar' hero is at the bar at the moment of speaking. Please, excuse me for my misunderstooding. | 
15-Nov-2006, 08:58
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea Quote:
Originally Posted by PINKGREAT So, do you mean by that that we are talking about a concrete brandy, bottle of...? But the 'the man with the scar' hero is at the bar at the moment of speaking. Please, excuse me for my misunderstooding. | I was - and I hope I made the liberty I was taking with Somerset Maugham clear - adapting the context. If the hero was at a bar, he would normally (in BE) say 'a Brandy'; I think Mike said, in an earlier post, just 'Brandy' would do in some contexts in AmE.
But if a man had gone into the bar and just said 'Get me a drink - something strong', and the barman said 'Whisky? Brandy? Gin?...' - then the answer would be 'Brandy'.
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea Thank you very much. | 
16-Nov-2006, 14:33
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| | Re: a drink, a brandy but tea Quote:
Originally Posted by PINKGREAT Thank you very much. | You're welcome
I've just thought, your doubt about tea as against other drinks could be due to the use of 'tea' to express time: 'time for tea' is more likely than 'time for brandy'.
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