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19-Nov-2006, 20:28
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Originally Posted by MikeNewYork Different and differently are not synonyms; they are not even the same part of speech.
When I asked you about context, I am asking what you are trying to say.
Bob and John called their cows differently. (in a different way)
We don't call this design unique; we call it different. (unlike the other) | I know they are not synonyms... I just used the term in the sentence.
What about these?: The phenomenon of two completely opposite words is called antonymity. Is it really called antonymity or is it called different/ly ? Is the girl called Jane or is she called different/ly? | 
19-Nov-2006, 20:38
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Originally Posted by MikeNewYork Different and differently are not synonyms; they are not even the same part of speech.
When I asked you about context, I am asking what you are trying to say.
Bob and John called their cows differently. (in a different way)
We don't call this design unique; we call it different. (unlike the other) | Ah! I've just understood it! (Is the previous sentence correct, by the way?)
The adjective is used only in the meaning "weird" etc., isn't it?
E.g.
A: The child is so weird!
B: No, it is not weird, it is just different. We call it different as "weird" might sound offensive.
(BTW, do you think it would sound normal in English, when I say "(B:) No, it is not "weird", we call it differently, and that is "different"."
Well, that means, that I should have used the adverb in the two sentences in my previous post, I suppose. Am I right? | 
19-Nov-2006, 21:23
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Originally Posted by Lenka Ah! I've just understood it! (Is the previous sentence correct, by the way?)
The adjective is used only in the meaning "weird" etc., isn't it?
E.g.
A: The child is so weird!
B: No, it is not weird, it is just different. We call it different as "weird" might sound offensive.
(BTW, do you think it would sound normal in English, when I say "(B:) No, it is not "weird", we call it differently, and that is "different"."
Well, that means, that I should have used the adverb in the two sentences in my previous post, I suppose. Am I right? | "Call differently" is the correct usage to me. "we call it different": as I already mentioned is possible in spoken English complying with a tendency to use adjectives instead of adverbs. All verbs apart from link(ing) verbs take adverbs, not adjectives. Some verbs like "go" have two different meanings:
He went crazy. become (link verb: adjective)
He went crazily. walk (action verb: adverb).
Although "call" has different meanings it is not a link verb. It is an action verb and consequently can only take an adverb. Only in spoken English an adjective is possible or perhaps it is still an adverb whose -ly is dropped. | 
20-Nov-2006, 00:10
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Originally Posted by Lenka I know they are not synonyms... I just used the term in the sentence.
What about these?: The phenomenon of two completely opposite words is called antonymity. Is it really called antonymity or is it called different/ly ? Is the girl called Jane or is she called different/ly? | Is it really called antonymity or is it called something else?
Is the girl called Jane or is she called something else? | 
20-Nov-2006, 05:23
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Originally Posted by Lenka Ah! I've just understood it! (Is the previous sentence correct, by the way?)
The adjective is used only in the meaning "weird" etc., isn't it?
E.g.
A: The child is so weird!
B: No, it is not weird, it is just different. We call it different as "weird" might sound offensive.
(BTW, do you think it would sound normal in English, when I say "(B:) No, it is not "weird", we call it differently, and that is "different"."
Well, that means, that I should have used the adverb in the two sentences in my previous post, I suppose. Am I right? | I'm glad you understand. I am sorry I confused you. And, yes, your first sentence was correct.
The adjective "different" is used in many contexts.
As you have used it, "the child is diifferent", it could mean "strange, not normal". But consider these:
John is a hard worker, who takes his studies seriously. His sister is different. [Now it means she has a different approach to school.]
That's not the sweater I wanted. The one I wanted was different. [not the same sweater]. Quote: |
BTW, do you think it would sound normal in English, when I say "(B:) No, it is not "weird", we call it differently, and that is "different"."
| It is not that common in English to say we call something differently.
We say "we use a different name" "we call it something else", etc. | 
20-Nov-2006, 21:17
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Current Location: Czech Republic First Language: Czech Member Type: Student or Learner | | Re: adverb vs. adjective Thank you all very much! | 
21-Nov-2006, 01:49
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Originally Posted by Lenka Thank you all very much! | You're welcome. | 
21-Nov-2006, 02:30
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Current Location: North Carolina First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: adverb vs. adjective "Bob and John call their cows differently". Bob uses a bell to call his cows; John uses a horn.
Bob calls his cows "cattle." John calls his cows "kine." I would say that John and Bob call their cows by different names.
Is the girl called Jane, or is she called something different?
Dr. Ibrahim is right when he says that call is not a linking verb, but there is a distinct difference in these two usages:
The group called the police when their cars were stolen.
The group called The Police were very popular in the '80s.
I think that adverb use with the second form is awkward. | 
21-Nov-2006, 19:39
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Originally Posted by mykwyner The group called the police when their cars were stolen.
The group called The Police were very popular in the '80s.
I think that adverb use with the second form is awkward. | Thank you very much, mykwyner; your explanation can not be called by a different adjective but "excellent"!  (By the way, did I used the word "different" etc. in a right way here?)
I just don't understand why you find the second sentence (
The group called The Police were very popular in the '80s.) awkward... Why? | 
22-Nov-2006, 01:35
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Current Location: North Carolina First Language: English Member Type: English Teacher | | Re: adverb vs. adjective Dear Lenka,
Thanks for the praise, but I'm afraid that you did not use "different" in a way that can be considered common English usage.
We would say, "there is no better word than 'excellent' for your explanation."
If you use the word differently only when you mean, "in a different manner," then you will be using it correctly almost all of the time.
In the sentence, "The group called the police when their cars were stolen," the word called is the main verb in the sentence and can be modified by an adverb like this: "The group quickly called the police when their cars were stolen."
In the sentence, "The group called The Police were popular in the '80s," the word called can still be modified like this: "The group, usually called The Police, were popular in the '80s." This is perfectly correct English, but I don't like it because (in spoken form) the beginning of the sentence has a second meaning about a group who usually called the police department. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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