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ordinal numbers
We say one hundred and first. Is one hundred first correct? I mean without and?
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Originally Posted by
daisy1352
We say one hundred and first. Is one hundred first correct? I mean without and?
Number = one hundred and one
Adjective = one hundred and first
Normally, one would not use either without the "and" because it might not be clear.
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unless you use 101st. Then you will translate it as one hundred and first (which is a reasonable position in the New York marathon). How are you Mike? just having a Cornish Pasty, then off to my bed (4.30am here)
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Originally Posted by
curmudgeon
unless you use 101st. Then you will translate it as one hundred and first (which is a reasonable position in the New York marathon). How are you Mike? just having a Cornish Pasty, then off to my bed (4.30am here)
I'm fine. Is "Cornish pastry" a codeword for adult beverage?
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Originally Posted by
BobK
A bit of FYI::
Cornish pasty
but
Danish pastry.
A
pasty is usually savoury. It rhymes with neither 'nasty' (unless you're being particularly curmudgeonly

), nor 'hasty': /'pæsti:/. There is a homonym with the other vowel, but it's usually in the collocation
pasty-faced.
b
Actually, I made a mistake. It is pastie not pasty
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Originally Posted by
curmudgeon
Actually, I made a mistake. It is pastie not pasty
So my 'synonym' isn't one. Still it's a near synonym and an easy vowel sound to get wrong.
(Incidentally, it's occurred to me that Mikes 'pastry' was just a typo - it struck me as possibly another BE/AmE thing though.)
b
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It can be spelled "pasty" or "pastie".
It is basically a kind of pie with a savoury filling (usually meat, potatoes and vegetables) wrapped in pastry with a crimped edge. Originally, Cornish tin miners took their pasties to the mines as a complete meal; they would hold the crimped edge to eat the pasty without getting it (the pasty) dirty. Modern pasties are much smaller and considered more a snack.
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