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On the main page the correct titles are:

S - Ancient Chinese Stories [adjective order: time + origin]

G - Learn Grammar by Example [no need to pluralize 'examples']

Learn Colloquial Speech by Movie Lines [adjectives don't form plurals
in English so no need for the 's' on Movie]

Learn English through Advertisements [not 'by']

Sample Bank Letters [or 'Sample Letters from a Bank']


Obviously there's a lot more to the site than the front page so I'd
recommend you sit down and proof it well. If you can't find a willing
English teacher, perhaps import the text into Word and do a Grammar check.
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I got this comment from someone who did a review on my site. Can you please comment on his points ?
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On the main page the correct titles are:

S - Ancient Chinese Stories [adjective order: time + origin]

G - Learn Grammar by Example [no need to pluralize 'examples']

Learn Colloquial Speech by Movie Lines [adjectives don't form plurals
in English so no need for the 's' on Movie]

Learn English through Advertisements [not 'by']

Sample Bank Letters [or 'Sample Letters from a Bank']


Obviously there's a lot more to the site than the front page so I'd
recommend you sit down and proof it well. If you can't find a willing
English teacher, perhaps import the text into Word and do a Grammar check.
***************

I got this comment from someone who did a review on my site. Can you please comment on his points ?
It is difficult to comment without seeing the originals. Can you post both versions?
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It looks like good advice to me. For example, "Ancient Chinese Stories" is correct. "Learn Grammar by Example" or "Learn Grammar by Using Examples" are both good.

I agree with all of the recommendations.

Perhaps you could post some of the stuff here so we can review it?
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All the words he commented are in the main page of my website www.englishdaily626.com

By the way, we don't need an article for ' Bank ' right ? But he seems to insist on ' a Bank ' instead. But those letters are from different banks after all ?
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All the words he commented are in the main page of my website www.englishdaily626.com

By the way, we don't need an article for ' Bank ' right ? But he seems to insist on ' a Bank ' instead. But those letters are from different banks after all ?
If the letters are from different banks then I would prefer Sample Letters from Some Banks or Sample Letters from Banks. (I would prefer the first one. Banks could be a person's name.

BTW, it's usually called the home page, not the main page.

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Re:
  • Chinese Ancient Stories
They are first, Chinese stories and second, ancient stories. Thus, it should be: Ancient Chinese Stories.

Re:
  • Learn Grammar by Examples
The phrase is learn by example. How about:
  • Learn by Example--English Grammar

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  • Learn Colloquial Speech by Movies Lines
I would say, "Learn colloquial speech by listening to lines from movies", but that is too long for your purposes. How about:
  • At the Movies--Colloquial Speech
Do you think that's catchy? :wink:

Re:
  • Learn English by Advertisements
The word by doesn't work well there. How about:
  • English in the Marketplace
Clever, huh? :wink:

Re:
  • Sample letters from Bank
Better would be:
  • Sample Letters from Banks
(I changed my mind about that one.)

What do you think?

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(I like the story about Uncle Sam. Did you know that they used to use the image of Uncle Sam on enlistment posters?)
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But his point is that ' movies lines ' is wrong, but when I typed ' movies lines ' in Google search box. I can find many sites using the similar phrase, and I believe he is wrong about it not to have s for a noun used as an adjective. How about " weapons program " ? I came across it many many times at the renowned newspapers.

Ok, fair enough. Learn English by Advertisements is wrong logically. But he suggests ' through ' advertisements. In fact, ' by ' ' with ' ' through ' are almost the same.

eg I paid by ( with ) ( through ) cash.

The only one I sort of agree is ' examples ' :p. There is no need to be plural.

enlistment posters ? I don't get it :P:P

To play safe, I think I'd better stick to your suggestions, Ron :) Here it goes - suggestion or suggestions ? As a non-native, we treat it as more than one. My head is spinning now :)
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Usage isn't always logical. Anyhow, I would use movie lines or lines from movies. (You are right about weapons program, of course.)

Google isn't 100% dependable. There is quite a bit of misusage. (For example, using its for it's, which occurs often.)

I don't care for Learn English by Advertisements or the other one either, for that matter. How about "English in Advertisements"? (I like my other suggestion too.)

We say I paid by check or I paid with cash. (English is a funny language.)

During World War II there were posters outside of recruitment centers with a picture of Uncle Sam saying, "I want YOU".

It's suggestions. I made more than one suggestion.

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Then to say that ' Colloquial speech in Movie Lines ' is fine, right ?

My approach to English is right I guess, read good books and imitate good speeches because as a non-native the more we try to analyse the more confused we are. There are always exceptions in a language.

But this time I just borrowed the wrong phrase :p.

After years of studying, we still cannot shake off the singular or plural nightmare. This is really frustrating.
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Then to say that ' Colloquial speech in Movie Lines ' is fine, right ?
Yes, that is good.

Quote:
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My approach to English is right I guess, read good books and imitate good speeches because as a non-native the more we try to analyse the more confused we are. There are always exceptions in a language.
Of course, there is a difference between speeches and speech.

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But this time I just borrowed the wrong phrase :p.
It gave me something to do.

:wink:

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After years of studying, we still cannot shake off the singular or plural nightmare. This is really frustrating.
You're not doing that badly.

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