.....and while....

[Aieda_Chiang]

(a)She wrote mostly in cafes while her daughter was asleep.
(b)She wrote mostly in cafes and while her daughter was asleep.
I had asked you about the sentence “She wrote mostly in cafes and while her daughter was asleep.” Here is my another question. What’s the difference between Sentence (a) and (b)? I usually see Sentence (a) but seldom see Sentence (b).

[Tdol]

B)- 'and while' suggests that this is extra inforamtion, that the sleep and the writing might not be so directly connected to me.

[BobK]

Originally Posted by Aieda_Chiang

(a)She wrote mostly in cafes while her daughter was asleep.
(b)She wrote mostly in cafes and while her daughter was asleep.
I had asked you about the sentence “She wrote mostly in cafes and while her daughter was asleep.” Here is my another question. What’s the difference between Sentence (a) and (b)? I usually see Sentence (a) but seldom see Sentence (b).

In (a), she's out (away from home), writing in a cafe; her daughter is presumably at school/nursery. I don't know why the writer says 'asleep' there.

In (b), she's doing (a) but also - even while at home, where's she's usually distracted by her daughter - taking advantage of that bit of peace between her daughter's bedtime and her own, to do a bit more writing.

I would expect to hear (b) more than (a) - because I don't really understand (a).

b

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by BobK

In (a), she's out (away from home), writing in a cafe; her daughter is presumably at school/nursery. I don't know why the writer says 'asleep' there.

In (b), she's doing (a) but also - even while at home, where's she's usually distracted by her daughter - taking advantage of that bit of peace between her daughter's bedtime and her own, to do a bit more writing.

I would expect to hear (b) more than (a) - because I don't really understand (a).

b

I assumed her daughter was with her in the cafe and slept in the stroller.

Sentence (b) is problematic because it sets us up for a second independent clause but delivers a subordinate clause.

[BobK]

Aha - now I get it. The word "stroller" is another one you can add to the list Mike; we'd say 'buggy' or (possibly, if it was a spacious cafe) a pram.

b

[JSmiley]

Originally Posted by BobK

Aha - now I get it. The word "stroller" is another one you can add to the list Mike; we'd say 'buggy' or (possibly, if it was a spacious cafe) a pram.

b

you English are just so.... English, aren't you?

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by BobK

Aha - now I get it. The word "stroller" is another one you can add to the list Mike; we'd say 'buggy' or (possibly, if it was a spacious cafe) a pram.

b

We used to use "buggy" as well. But now the things are completely different from what was called a buggy.

[BobK]

Originally Posted by MikeNewYork

We used to use "buggy" as well. But now the things are completely different from what was called a buggy.

It's 15-16 years since I used one, so I suspect the vocabulary may have moved on. The 4/8 wheeled ones are still, I think, called buggies but I wouldn't be surprised if the trendier and more expensive 3-wheelers were called something different (if only to justify the price tag).

b

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by BobK

It's 15-16 years since I used one, so I suspect the vocabulary may have moved on. The 4/8 wheeled ones are still, I think, called buggies but I wouldn't be surprised if the trendier and more expensive 3-wheelers were called something different (if only to justify the price tag).

b

This is what I would call a buggy



I would call this one a stroller

[BobK]

Originally Posted by MikeNewYork

This is what I would call a buggy



I would call this one a stroller

I'd call the first one a pram (and I think the maker of the jpg would agree ). I'd call this a buggy: www.medicaltravel.org/logo/mclaren_1.jpg . It looks a bit more flimsy than your stroller.

b