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    Default Re: Out of the question

    Quote Originally Posted by Belly T View Post
    Thanks Ron Bee, I tried using (or use?) the formal English so that's why I didn't put any 's' to mine, anyway, thanks for reminding.
    Can anybody show me should I use try+v-ing or try+inf in this case or not?
    "Try doing it" vs "try to do it"? (There is often a difference in meaning between the two.)

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    Default Re: Out of the question

    Quote Originally Posted by Belly T View Post
    Thanks Ron Bee, I tried using (or use?) the formal English so that's why I didn't put any 's' to mine, anyway, thanks for reminding.
    Can anybody show me should I use try+v-ing or try+inf in this case or not?
    Both! 'I was trying to use...'.

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    Default Re: Out of the question

    I might (mis?)intepret "This is out of the question." as "You are not allowed to ask about this." Is that a possible meaning for a native speaker, or no?

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    Default Re: Out of the question

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    I might (mis?)intepret "This is out of the question." as "You are not allowed to ask about this." Is that a possible meaning for a native speaker, or no?
    Not really. A particular plan, approach, etc may be out of the question (we are not going to do that), but the phrase doesn't really mean that questions about something are not allowed.

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    Default Re: Out of the question

    Quote Originally Posted by dihen View Post
    I might (mis?)intepret "This is out of the question." as "You are not allowed to ask about this." Is that a possible meaning for a native speaker, or no?
    For that you'd say (in an informal context) 'that's off limits', 'that's not on the agenda' or 'that's not on the table'. I don't know of a (short) way of saying it formally - you'd have to use some periphrasis like 'I'm not at liberty to talk about that' or 'that's not [up] for discussion'. Of course, a politician would say 'I'm glad you asked me that' and proceed to talk about one of the few things his party has done right.


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    Default Re: Out of the question

    If it's not as strong as "not allowed to ask", does it imply that the person who said it doesn't want the person he's speaking to ask about something?

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    I'd say "It's out of the question" is plenty strong in the sense that it completely rejects an idea or suggestion. There is not a sense that someone isn't allowed to ask the question or bring the topic up, but rather that there is simply no point in discussing the idea/suggestion further.
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