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Old 06-Dec-2006, 13:36
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Dear Teacher,

Reading the book "The Dilbert's Principle" I have found an expresion that I think I understand, but I'd rather to feel sure of the meaning. It is "One level removed". I uderstand that is about something that can be removed without a negative effect. I would have written "one level removable", but it says "One level removed". I think that Scott Adams knows what he writes.

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Hector.
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Old 06-Dec-2006, 14:08
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Dear Teacher,

Reading the book "The Dilbert's Principle" I have found an expresion that I think I understand, but I'd rather to feel sure of the meaning. It is "One level removed". I uderstand that is about something that can be removed without a negative effect. I would have written "one level removable", but it says "One level removed". I think that Scott Adams knows what he writes.

Best wishes.

Hector.
I think you've probably misunderstood the meaning of the phrase. The word 'removed' in this context really means 'distant from'. A common use is to describe a second or third cousin, as in "he was my cousin once removed." That is, he was the son of the cousin of my mother or father.

Another example would be: "The decisions of management are one level removed from the daily decisions of the workers."
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Coffa,

Thank you very much. Today I learnt two things; one about relatives and the other about a management concept. I wouldn’t have ever guessed this meaning of the word ‘removed’.

Again, thank you.

Hector.
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Old 06-Dec-2006, 14:43
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"The decisions of management are one level removed from the daily decisions of the workers."
To me, what is written here is perfectly understandable.
Management decisions can have farther-reaching consequences than those made by workers.

The former on the other hand would have puzzled me completely if I should have encountered it in a text.

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Also 'one level added' is normally said as 'one level above'
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To me, what is written here is perfectly understandable.
Management decisions can have farther-reaching consequences than those made by workers.

The former on the other hand would have puzzled me completely if I should have encountered it in a text.

One to store!
The nuances of the cousin terminology continue to confuse me. I checked afterwards, and it is not precisely as I described, though the principle is unchanged. This URL may be useful for those interested:

Cousins Explained
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The nuances of the cousin terminology continue to confuse me. I checked afterwards, and it is not precisely as I described, though the principle is unchanged. This URL may be useful for those interested:

Cousins Explained
Difficult!

But better than in the Flemish language.
Here we speak about "achter achter achter neef" for a second cousin once removed.
My wife is an expert in these matters. Myself, I'm losing track if any relationship is farther away than "next of kin"
What I will retain for myself is "the greater the number the farther away"
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