have finished and are finished?

which of the following sentences is correct:
when you are finished with activity do the other one?
when you have finished with activity do the other one?

i found the 1st sentence in a frammar book and i didnt undersrand the use of to be there.
thanks

[Tdol]

They're both correct, though it should say something like 'finished with this activity' and there shouldn't be a question mark at the end. The normal form would be 'have finished', but we often say 'are finished'. 'Finshed' would be an adjective here, not the present passive.

[Coco77840]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

which of the following sentences is correct:
when you are finished with activity do the other one?
when you have finished with activity do the other one?

i found the 1st sentence in a frammar book and i didnt undersrand the use of to be there.
thanks

Both example can be used , both are correct as i know ....

[Coco77840]

Originally Posted by Tdol

They're both correct, though it should say something like 'finished with this activity' and there shouldn't be a question mark at the end. The normal form would be 'have finished', but we often say 'are finished'. 'Finshed' would be an adjective here, not the present passive.

Oh got ur point now i understood when we can use "are finished" ...

[Harry Smith]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

which of the following sentences is correct:
when you are finished with activity do the other one?
when you have finished with activity do the other one?

i found the 1st sentence in a frammar book and i didnt undersrand the use of to be there.
thanks

You can say both but they are a little different in meaning. "When you are finished with this activity" shows a finished time. Instead of saying "when you have finished" it's better to say "When you finished." because we don't use present perfect with the question word "when". Consequently if you miss "have" in the second sentence they are both the same.

[Tdol]

You can say 'when you have finished' for an action that is unfinished at the time of speaking.

[Harry Smith]

Originally Posted by Tdol

You can say 'when you have finished' for an action that is unfinished at the time of speaking.

I'm trying to agree with you but it seems to me "when" points to a finished action. "When did you finish it?" It's a finished action, isn't it?

[riverkid]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

which of the following sentences is correct:


1) When you are finished with the activity, do the other one?
2) When you have finished with the activity, do the other one?

i found the 1st sentence in a grammar book and i didnt understand the use of "be" there.
thanks

In number 1), 'are finished' focuses on the state;

When you are tired/sleepy/thirsty/hungry

"When you are finished" = When you are in the state of "having finished"

In number 2), the focus is on the point of finishing the action/activity.

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Originally Posted by Harry Smith

I'm trying to agree with you but it seems to me "when" points to a finished action. "When did you finish it?" It's a finished action, isn't it?

'when' can point to a past, a present, or a future, Harry.

When I was 10, I lived in ...

When she's doing that, you should be doing this.

When you move to Moscow, be sure to look up Harry Smith.

[Harry Smith]

Originally Posted by riverkid

In number 1), 'are finished' focuses on the state;

When you are tired/sleepy/thirsty/hungry

"When you are finished" = When you are in the state of "having finished"

In number 2), the focus is on the point of finishing the action/activity.

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'when' can point to a past, a present, or a future, Harry.

When I was 10, I lived in ...

When she's doing that, you should be doing this.

When you move to Moscow, be sure to look up Harry Smith.

I meant the given example above:When you have finished- When you finished.

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by Harry Smith

I meant the given example above:When you have finished- When you finished.

You could use "when you finished" to refer to a time in the past, but not wjile the activity is going on.

When you have finished eating, please clear the table.
When you finished the stew, did you wash the dishes?