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Old 10-Dec-2006, 00:13
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Would you help find the correct word (maybe a prefix) that shows the action in question is redundant or unnecessary because the outcome is evident or fixed. Like a trial; when a famous person, having evidently committed a crime, is on trial, but will certainly be acquitted.

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Old 10-Dec-2006, 03:45
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Would you help find the correct word (maybe a prefix) that shows the action in question is redundant or unnecessary because the outcome is evident or fixed. Like a trial; when a famous person, having evidently committed a crime, is on trial, but will certainly be acquitted.

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You may be looking for "predetermined".
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You may be looking for "predetermined".
And can we call a predetermined trial a window dressing trial?
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I would call it a show trial. (In the former Soviet Union the outcomes of trials were predetermined. Those trials were show trials.)

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A whitewash, a foregone conclusion, a travesty, a fix, a set-up. A kangaroo court.

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And can we call a predetermined trial a window dressing trial?
I wouldn't use "predetermined before "trial"; it is the outcome that is predetermined. One could say the trial was window dressing, but not usually a window dressing trial.
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I wouldn't use "predetermined before "trial"; it is the outcome that is predetermined. One could say the trial was window dressing, but not usually a window dressing trial.
Should we say "the trial that was predetermined.........." instead?

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(In the former Soviet Union the outcomes of trials were predetermined.

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So were in Hungary and, I think, in every other former (?) Iron Curtain country.

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Would you help find the correct word (maybe a prefix) that shows the action in question is redundant or unnecessary because the outcome is evident or fixed. Like a trial; when a famous person, having evidently committed a crime, is on trial, but will certainly be acquitted.

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If you specifically want a prefix, it would be 'pseudo-'. There isn't a collocation (however weak) between pseudo- and trial, but that would be the one to use.

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Should we say "the trial that was predetermined.........." instead?
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It'd be much better to use one of the synonyms suggested by curmudgeon. Or you could use the term 'rigged' instead of 'predetermined'.

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So were in Hungary and, I think, in every other former (?) Iron Curtain country.
Again, it is not the trial; it is the outcome, the verdict, the result.
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