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Dear Cas,
Sorry to bother you again. I am afaid you didn't explain my question:

Other materials are used in the workshop also, about which some details will be given.

Your explanation is –preposition 1.of; concerning; in regard to: instructions about the work; a book about the Civil War.
Could you please tell me if –preposition refers to 'about' ? Could you please tell me if 'of' , that is, 'of which' is correct here?

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thank you in advance.
Jiang
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No problem.

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Other materials are used in the workshop also, about which some details will be given.

about is a preposition Meanings, of; concerning; in regard to: instructions about the work; a book about the Civil War.

Note that, of is a near synonym for about. That is, they share a similar meaning but are not always interchangeable.

Here are the sentences re-ordered:

[1] Details about other materials used in the workshop will be given.
[2] Details of other materials used in the workshop will be given.

about means concerning, whereas of means belonging to. Their semantic tie is so close speakers use them as if they were one and the same. I like both.
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Dear Cas,

Thank you very much for your explanation. Now I see.

Jiang
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No problem.

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Other materials are used in the workshop also, about which some details will be given.

about is a preposition Meanings, of; concerning; in regard to: instructions about the work; a book about the Civil War.

Note that, of is a near synonym for about. That is, they share a similar meaning but are not always interchangeable.

Here are the sentences re-ordered:

[1] Details about other materials used in the workshop will be given.
[2] Details of other materials used in the workshop will be given.

about means concerning, whereas of means belonging to. Their semantic tie is so close speakers use them as if they were one and the same. I like both.
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Have a good one, Jiang.
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Dear Cas,
There must be something wrong with the website because on my computer it showed you are offline now. But from you response I know you are online now.

Have a good night.

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Dear Cas,

Sorry to bother you again. I think I understood your explanation. But I not quite certain now.
Could you please explain that if I say 'to measure A against B' that means 'A is better than B'?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

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OK. I see.

with whom expresses a comparison based on similarity, whereas against whom doesn't. For example, A against B (one is better than the other) versus A with B (they might be equal). Does that help?

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The word yet functions sometimes as an adverb and has several meanings: in addition ("yet another cause of trouble" or "a simple yet noble woman"), even ("yet more expensive"), still ("he is yet a novice"), eventually ("they may yet win"), and so soon as now ("he's not here yet"). It also functions as a coordinating conjunction meaning something like "nevertheless" or "but."
Casiopea,

I'd also have some questions.

Is yet only used with the two comperatives "more" and "another"? Does "yet more/another...indicate annoyance or joy?

"We have yet more snow this year." "We have more snow this winter."


Please correct the examples below.

He was a rookie, but/yet won the US Open.
He's wealthy yet (he) seems unhappy. (is "he" necessary)
He is wealthy yet/but unhappy.
He is a villain yet/but (he) has some virtues.
By the day we were tired but/yet happy.

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Dear teachers,

I asked a question of 'measure against' and 'measure with'. And the following is what Cas explained. I thought I understood it but I'd like to make sure I am right. I have waited for Cas for four hours but she hasn't replied yet. I guess she is too busy to help me. Since this question is urgent and I am not sure whether Cas will be free today could you please kindly help me?

The following is the sentence:
Heroes and heroines are men and women distinguished by uncommon courage, achievements, and self-sacrifice made most often for the benefit of others---they are people ________ whom we meansure others.
The following is Cas' explanation;

with whom expresses a comparison based on similarity, whereas against whom doesn't. For example, A against B (one is better than the other) versus A with B (they might be equal). Does that help? [/quote]

My quesiton are:
No.1 A against B: one (A) is better than the other ( B). Is that right?
No.2 Then in the cited sentence it should mean: Others are better than 'they'. That is 'Heroes and heroines'. What puzzled me is that it doesn't seem logic.
If I am wrong could you please explain how I can decide whether 'A is better than B' or 'B is better than A'?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.

Jiang

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