Forum newsfeeds
Forum Newsfeeds


Sites for Teachers

Sites for Teachers


Go Back   UsingEnglish.com ESL Forum > Learning English > Ask a Teacher

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 29-Jan-2007, 12:56
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Country: TURKIYE
Posts: 41
Current Location: Tekirdag
First Language: Turkish
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
dilekdemir89 is on a distinguished road
Default is said...

He____________ his doctor before he took the medicine.

a. is said to have consulted

b. is said that he consulted

A is correct, in my opinion, but what about B?

thanks a lot, in advance
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 29-Jan-2007, 13:27
Casiopea's Avatar
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,997
Current Location: China
First Language: English
Member Type: Other
Thanks: 0
Thanked 40 Times in 39 Posts
Casiopea is on a distinguished road
Default Re: is said...

It would work if the subject were it:

b. It is said that he consulted his doctor before he took the medicine.

All the best.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 29-Jan-2007, 15:33
Harry Smith's Avatar
Key Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Country: Armenia
Posts: 2,367
Current Location: Moscow,Russia
First Language: Armenian
Member Type: English Teacher
Thanks: 2
Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts
Harry Smith is on a distinguished road
Default Re: is said...

Quote:
Originally Posted by dilekdemir89 View Post
He____________ his doctor before he took the medicine.

a. is said to have consulted

b. is said that he consulted

A is correct, in my opinion, but what about B?

thanks a lot, in advance
I think A is correct. B can be correct, too if we say like this: He said that he had consulted his doctor before he took the medicine.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 29-Jan-2007, 18:18
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Country: TURKIYE
Posts: 41
Current Location: Tekirdag
First Language: Turkish
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
dilekdemir89 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: is said...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Smith View Post
I think A is correct. B can be correct, too if we say like this: He said that he had consulted his doctor before he took the medicine.
But, when we have a look at B:

He is said that he consulted.....

but shouldn't the sentence be like that to be correct

It is said that he (had) consulted .....

The ''he'' at the beginning of the sentence confuses me
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 29-Jan-2007, 21:11
BobK's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Country: England (South East)
Posts: 5,637
Current Location: England (South East)
First Language: English
Member Type: English Teacher
Thanks: 70
Thanked 788 Times in 693 Posts
BobK is a splendid one to beholdBobK is a splendid one to beholdBobK is a splendid one to beholdBobK is a splendid one to beholdBobK is a splendid one to beholdBobK is a splendid one to beholdBobK is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: is said...

There's no 'is' in Harry's version, and it makes perfect sense. 'It is said that [reported speech]' and 'He said that [reported speech]' are both OK. They're not equivalent, but there's nothing wrong with either of them grammatically.

b
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 29-Jan-2007, 21:13
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Country: TURKIYE
Posts: 41
Current Location: Tekirdag
First Language: Turkish
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
dilekdemir89 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: is said...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BobK View Post
There's no 'is' in Harry's version, and it makes perfect sense.

b
Oh yes, I couldn't notice it at the time.

Thanks a lot
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 30-Jan-2007, 08:36
Casiopea's Avatar
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,997
Current Location: China
First Language: English
Member Type: Other
Thanks: 0
Thanked 40 Times in 39 Posts
Casiopea is on a distinguished road
Default Re: is said...

Quote:
Originally Posted by dilekdemir89 View Post
Oh yes, I couldn't notice it at the time.
Correction
I didn't notice it at the time.

All the best.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 30-Jan-2007, 19:41
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Country: TURKIYE
Posts: 41
Current Location: Tekirdag
First Language: Turkish
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
dilekdemir89 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: is said...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
Correction
I didn't notice it at the time.

All the best.


Thanks again, dear Mr. Casiopea
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 20:26.


vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright © 2002 - 2008 UsingEnglish.com