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21-Mar-2004, 11:43
| | | Need advice on Active and Passive Voice, thanks teachers! I shall write a letter soon. ( Change into passive)
A letter will be written by me soon.
THe question is why can't I use "shall be written" when changing into passive form. Please advise, teachers, thanks!
Is there a difference in meaning between " I shall" and "I will"? | 
21-Mar-2004, 14:22
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| | You can use shall in the passive voice. Example: I see no reason why you can't use "shall be written" in your sentence. Willand shall mean slightly different things. This is from Dictionary.com: - Usage Note: The traditional rules for using shall and will prescribe a highly complicated pattern of use in which the meanings of the forms change according to the person of the subject. In the first person, shall is used to indicate simple futurity: I shall (not will) have to buy another ticket. In the second and third persons, the same sense of futurity is expressed by will: The comet will (not shall) return in 87 years. You will (not shall) probably encounter some heavy seas when you round the point. The use of will in the first person and of shall in the second and third may express determination, promise, obligation, or permission, depending on the context. Thus I will leave tomorrow indicates that the speaker is determined to leave; You and she shall leave tomorrow is likely to be interpreted as a command. The sentence You shall have your money expresses a promise (“I will see that you get your money”), whereas You will have your money makes a simple prediction. ·Such, at least, are the traditional rules. The English and some traditionalists about usage are probably the only people who follow these rules, and then not with perfect consistency. In America, people who try to adhere to them run the risk of sounding pretentious or haughty. Americans normally use will to express most of the senses reserved for shall in English usage. Americans use shall chiefly in first person invitations and questions that request an opinion or agreement, such as Shall we go? and in certain fixed expressions, such as We shall overcome. In formal style, Americans use shall to express an explicit obligation, as in Applicants shall provide a proof of residence, though this sense is also expressed by must or should. In speech the distinction that the English signal by the choice of shall or will may be rendered by stressing the auxiliary, as in I will leave tomorrow (“I intend to leave”); by choosing another auxiliary, such as must or have to; or by using an adverb such as certainly. ·In addition to its sense of obligation, shall also can convey high moral seriousness that derives in part from its extensive use in the King James Bible, as in “Righteousness shall go before him and shall set us in the way of his steps” (Ps 85:13) and “He that shall humble himself shall be exalted” (Mt 23:12). The prophetic overtones that shall bears with it have no doubt led to its use in some of the loftiest rhetoric in English. This may be why Lincoln chose to use it instead of will in the Gettysburg Address:“government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.”
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=shall
As noted in the article above, Americans don't use shall much in everyday speech.
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21-Mar-2004, 14:50
| | | Thanks for advising again, teacher Ronbee! ^o^ | 
21-Mar-2004, 23:01
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| | In BE, 'shall' is more common in formal language. In colloquial language, we use it in questions mostly.  | 
22-Mar-2004, 00:39
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Originally Posted by tdol In BE, 'shall' is more common in formal language. In colloquial language, we use it in questions mostly.  | I agree about the "shall" in questions. The distinction in meaning between "shall" and "will" with different persons has pretty much disappeared in AE. We use "will" most often, but "shall" is used at times for variety, not for changes in volition. | 
22-Mar-2004, 08:05
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22-Mar-2004, 15:02
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Originally Posted by Helped Wanted Many thanks to both teacher Tdol and Mike New York for the advice too! ^o^ | You're welcome. :wink: | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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