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23-Feb-2007, 00:30
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| | Most vs Most of Hello,
In the context of exams my students often have to answer multiple choice questions. But this time I was extremely puzzled to find the following answer choices (only one answer is allowed) : ... students in her school learn 3 languages.
A) Most of ...
B) Most ...
C) The most of ...
D) Most of the ...
I suppose answer D) is expected. I cannot bring myself to think that B) is unacceptable, though. May I ask you what you think ?
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23-Feb-2007, 00:51
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| | Re: Most vs Most of Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephan Wilhelm Hello,
In the context of exams my students often have to answer multiple choice questions. But this time I was extremely puzzled to find the following answer choices (only one answer is allowed) : ... students in her school learn 3 languages.
A) Most of ...
B) Most ...
C) The most of ...
D) Most of the ...
I suppose answer D) is expected. I cannot bring myself to think that B) is unacceptable, though. May I ask you what you think ?
With many thanks in advance. | I think that it's a bad question because both answers, B & D, are possible. D might be chosen more often because a "most of the" phrasing is used when it becomes more specified, in this case by, "in her school". | 
23-Feb-2007, 00:59
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| | Re: Most vs Most of Thanks a lot, Riverkid. That is just what I thought. Very puzzling for the students though. | 
23-Feb-2007, 07:19
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| | Re: Most vs Most of B,D are alright | 
23-Feb-2007, 07:31
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| | Re: Most vs Most of Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephan Wilhelm I suppose answer D) is expected. I cannot bring myself to think that B) is unacceptable, though. May I ask you what you think? | I agree. Mind you, exam questions often have what appear to be two perfectly good choices. The rule of thumb is to choose the best answer. With that said, there's a clue here (as riverkid mentions): Definite: Most of the students in the school.
=> Use "the" when the noun it modifies is defined.
Ex: Most students learn 3 languages.
Ex: Most of the students in the school learn 3 languages.
All the best. | 
24-Feb-2007, 14:25
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Originally Posted by Casiopea I agree. Mind you, exam questions often have what appear to be two perfectly good choices. The rule of thumb is to choose the best answer. With that said, there's a clue here (as riverkid mentions): Definite: Most of the students in the school.
=> Use "the" when the noun it modifies is defined.
Ex: Most students learn 3 languages.
Ex: Most of the students in the school learn 3 languages.
All the best.  | From a cursory test run at Google, it seems that I may have been too hasty, ie. wrong,  in my belief. I think that this is simply an unfair question that should have been deleted from the test.
Results 1 - 10 of about 81,400 English pages for "most students in the ".
Results 1 - 10 of about 36,600 English pages for "most of the students in the " | 
24-Feb-2007, 16:39
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| | Re: Most vs Most of Quote:
Originally Posted by riverkid Results 1 - 10 of about 81,400 English pages for "most students in the". | Not 'unfair'. Just a matter of ellipsis. | 
25-Feb-2007, 23:12
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| | Re: Most vs Most of Quote:
Originally Posted by Casiopea Not 'unfair'. Just a matter of ellipsis.  | Ellipsis, I don't necessarily think so, Casi. If it were simply a matter of ellipsis then the distinction between general and specific wouldn't exist. | 
26-Feb-2007, 14:34
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| | Re: Most vs Most of Quote:
Originally Posted by riverkid Ellipsis, I don't necessarily think so, Casi. If it were simply a matter of ellipsis then the distinction between general and specific wouldn't exist. | On the contrary. Ellipsis is about redundancy. There are two markers that express definiteness here,
Ex: Most of the students in school study.
Omit one or the other and specificity still exists,
Ex: Most students in the school study.
Ex: Most of the students study. <implied 'in the school'>
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