ashamed of

[henry]

Yeap! You are absolutely right.

8)

[Casiopea]

Originally Posted by henry

Yeap! You are absolutely right.

8)

Erm..the credit is Red 5's :wink:

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by Casiopea

Well, that is definitely the case 'in some constructions':

I like to walk. (potential)
I like walking. (concrete)

However, in the case of 'was ashamed of', we have a State of being 'ashamed': be + participle + 'of', with focus on the state of being:

I was ashamed of speaking to him.

As is, we do not know if the speaking event happened or didn't happen. Additional context would be required to determine that. :wink:

I don't agree. When someone says "I was ashamed of (an action)" the shame arises from completing that action, not the potential of completing that action.

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by henry

What about " I am ashamed of speaking to him?"

In my opinion, I haven't started yet to speak to him, right?

And If you put this sentence into past tense, then the result remains the same, only the time of event is changed.

In my opinion, changing the verb to present tense just moves the shame to the present from the past. You spoke to him in the past and you are now (still) ashamed. IMO, you still spoke to him in the past. I see a difference in concreteness between "ashamed to speak" and "ashamed of speaking".

It might be clearer if you change "of" to "about".

I am/was ashamed about speaking to him.

[navi tasan]

Thanks Red5, Mike, Casiopea and Henry.
Apparently it wasn't such a bad question!
If one can replace "of" with "about", then I suppose one has to conclude that Mike is right.
This is one of those funny situations. Since you are natvie speakers I am sure that you use this sentence in the same way when it comes to concrete situations. But when one asks you the question, then you have doubts!

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by navi tasan

Thanks Red5, Mike, Casiopea and Henry.
Apparently it wasn't such a bad question!
If one can replace "of" with "about", then I suppose one has to conclude that Mike is right.
This is one of those funny situations. Since you are natvie speakers I am sure that you use this sentence in the same way when it comes to concrete situations. But when one asks you the question, then you have doubts!

You're welcome. It was a very good question. Even native speakers will disagree about some shades of meaning in English. We moderators come from three different countries and there are some differences in how we use the language. :wink:

[navi tasan]

Well, that does make the whole thing interesting and sometimes frustrating.
I always have to remind myself that sometimes there are no hard and fast rules.

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by navi tasan

Well, that does make the whole thing interesting and sometimes frustrating.
I always have to remind myself that sometimes there are no hard and fast rules.

At times, it is easier to agree on structure than on meaning. :wink:

[navi tasan]

Good point. Very good point. An analysis of that would propbably throw some light on language-acquisition mecanisms.
One says to oneself, "I have heard that before, but in what context? It is correct, but what does it mean?" Of-course this could happen only with sentences which are or might be ambiguous.

[MikeNewYork]

Originally Posted by navi tasan

Good point. Very good point. An analysis of that would propbably throw some light on language-acquisition mecanisms.
One says to oneself, "I have heard that before, but in what context? It is correct, but what does it mean?" Of-course this could happen only with sentences which are or might be ambiguous.

Very good analysis. :wink: